Desolate English path has killed more than 100 people (2017)
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The Bulge was infamous for traffic accidents where you suddenly had to swerve right then left then right at highway speed, with narrow lanes lined with concrete walls. This was a challenge for my old car with its loosey goosey suspension. I remember news radio at the time would report on another "flamer" at The Bulge.
Time moves on, and it was time to replace the bridge with a modern, safe one. The construction crew was astonished to find a car at the bottom where the highway abruptly ended when the bridge was retracted. In it was a woman who had been missing for 20 or 30 years. It was a famous case when she went missing, and people searched everywhere for her, including forests where psychics claimed she was.
Apparently, she was simply driving one night, didn't realize that the bridge was out, drove through the barrier into the water and nobody noticed.
[1] https://pemco.com/blog/closed-drawspan-evokes-memories-of-th...
[2] https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=860&dat=19810915&id=z...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6zr2d6...
Picture of the bridge. (I'm EU so couldn't view the previous link)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/5ticw5/til_a_dange...
https://www.archdaily.com/868904/copenhagens-latest-piece-of...
Surely you didn't "have to". Didn't it occur to anyone that slowing down might make it less dangerous?
Here's some pictures to help understand what this thing was:
Aerial: https://i.redd.it/cyol33goebfy.jpg Street view: https://imgur.com/a/mDH0H Artist's impression of operation: https://i.imgur.com/nIeXbXt.png
(Found in the reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/5ticw5/til_a_dange...)
> "danger. this pool is very dangerous. submerged rocks. diving, jumping & swimming prohibited."
it seems it should say something more like
"danger. hidden, swift undercurrents will pull you under and trap you to certain death. avoid the water."
but maybe that one pool only has submerged rocks as a danger, and not undercurrents. even so, it could be more informative: "danger. hidden shallow submerged rocks make diving, jumping & swimming here deadly." but that makes the inclusion of swimming puzzling.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/c_nilsen/2823013166
They emphasize the concrete fact that people have actually died from the danger, which seems a little closer to your suggestion.
it seems to lack information about when rip currents are most likely, and more to the point, the statistical likelihood of death from entering the water at all.
i'm personally not a strong swimmer so would avoid it anyways, but that information might more readily dissuade others by simply putting trust in the reader to make an appropriate life or death decision.
rip currents apparently kill less than 100 people per year in the US (mostly weaker swimmers who panic).
Spanish and Mandarin make sense based on SF demographics, but the Russian (?) seems out of place. Although I know the Outer Richmond has a good size Russian population.
But if you at what languages SF offers information in, it usually also includes Japanese, Tagalog, Vietnamese and others, so I’m curious why they aren’t included.
I don't think it's just an American thing.
So it's natural we're distrustful.
;)
I bet a dollar that the environment - nurture, as opposed to nature - will have a huge impact on a persons attitudes and beliefs and behavior towards authority.
Imho vast claims about human nature should be backed up with some scientific or well-sourced evidence :).
Something that injures a burglar could equally well injure a police officer, a fire fighter, a representative of the water company, ... it's amazing how many people can legally enter private property without the owner's permission. Of course one should be allowed to assume that such uninvited visitors are cautious professionals so you don't have to make everything childproof, but if you're aware of a serious danger yet can't be bothered to put up a warning sign ... you'd better have good insurance.
Scotland has 'right to roam' so we can wander about pretty much anywhere (with a few sensible restrictions) and there are actually very few signs at dangerous spots - I can only think of a handful. The idea that you would go onto someone else's land, have an accident and then blame the landowner seems a very strange idea to me.
The strid: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0038749,-1.9035917,394m/data...
The pool by the sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@53.9827603,-1.8865086,233m/data...
'Another sinister danger in this cave is the resurgence pool, where the water leaving the cave is forced through a narrow passage, in doing so it has scoured out a 7 m deep pool with underwater ledges, this coupled with the strong undercurrents created by the flow of the water has made this the most dangerous location in any British cave. In this short section of cave 10 people have drowned all within the sight of daylight, the dangers here should not be underestimated, signs in the cave before the pool warn of the danger and direct you to alternative exits.'
"Offshore path through tidal flats has killed 100+ people"
I also recall another similar place in France where the path has small artificial posts/concrete piers built so that anyone caught out can climb to safety.
Incidentally, it's about the same length as this 3 mile path, 4.2 km.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont-Saint-Michel: “converted into a raised causeway in 1879“
We went by, on holiday, a few weeks ago and the authorities simply crammed the entire place full of tourists. It felt like a BLM protest without angry people: every square meter had at least 5 people on it. Corona? Haha! Tourism income please. We ran away minutes after arriving.
Coming from NL, where authorities allowing that kind of madness would be front page news, this really baffled me. It seems that the French think that as long as you wear a face mask, nothing else matters.
I had just blindly assumed that the local authorities would limit parking (it's in the middle of nowhere, pretty much unreachable except by bus or car), or do some sort of reservation system, so tourist counts would be limited and people could keep their distance. Instead, the only sign of government presence were the four heavily armed police officers at the entrance, and they didn't give a damn either.
That said, just like looking at Paris from atop the Eiffel tower is a bad look because, well, no Eiffel tower, the Mont-Saint-Michel is best enjoyed from a distance. So maybe we didn't really miss anything except an overpriced crêpe-au-chocolat.
In 1909, they sent them up the Pyrenées mountains to be attacked by bears.
This path looks more like the rights of way over Morecambe bay though.
If you're in the north-east of England it's absolutely a wonderful thing to do.
We just walked along the causeway. The timing with the tides was a bit tight when we were there and it made more sense to take the more straightforward route although it wasn't as "authentic" as taking the path through the tidal flats.
Maps in other parts of the world will show such places as darkish blue to indicate they are tidal. I prefer the Ordnance Survey way (but I am British).
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Corbi%C3%A8re
[2] https://www.google.com/maps/@49.1806882,-2.2470043,3a,75y,22...
[3] https://www.google.com/maps/@49.18135,-2.2449889,3a,75y,243....
TL;DR 30-40 foot tidal range. Sea level rises faster then walking speed at times, you really must pay close attention.
There's a creek bed near me that dried out almost completely over the summer; usually there's some water flow and occasional shallow pools where small fish live. While it was completely dry, I wanted to walk as far downstream as I could. I woke up the Saturday morning I planned to do it to the sound of torrential downpour. As recently as that Thursday, there was no rain in the forecast. I can only imagine if the downpour was sudden, and a few hours later.
As it happens, after the downpour I went to see the creek, and it was flowing quite rapidly at a depth of about 3 feet, well more than enough to sweep someone away never to be seen again.
This would not be difficult to design, just a sensor placed at 50cm high that would activate automatically when flooded) and could be implement discretely without ruining the landscape.
Just an idea that just occurred to me.
Could be introduced in a tube drilled directly in rock for minimum visual impact. A system of an oiled hollow cylinder (buoy) inside a major tube, all placed in the drilled tunnel could move smoothly for a long time and return again by gravity after the flood as long as the drill left some empty space below (for mud evacuation purposes)
> How does it transmit data?
standard electric cable (for example), or wifi, radio... whatever appropriate for the area
> Where is placed?
The rod/buoy, At 50cm high or 1m high (or any appropriate value) in the upper parts of the cannon. This would avoid the problem of mud covering electronics also.
> What happens if it fails?
The system returns to the same point as it is currently: "This is dangerous, not guarantee, we recommend to hire a guide, do it at your own risk".
The difference is that in the meanwhile some lives could be saved, so would be an improvement over the current situation.
> How do we know if it fails
A final led at the starting (and end?) of the cannon could be arranged to turn off, for example. Trivial in design of electronic circuits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p2vzhTMhW0
Now imagine you are in a gorge or choke point where it narrows suddenly.
By the way, it is sunny overhead. The water is coming from a torrential downpour some miles away in the mountains. This is normal in New Mexico which experiences highly localized heavy downpours during July/August.
I remember one time flying over the southwest with the light just right and you could see vast drainages with thin thin cracks that are the actual channels cut down into the sand stone.
I love that phenomenon, that this was simply a way down to the Doggerland plains once. Probably hundreds, maybe thousands, of hunters, gatherers and anglers. They've specifically found wooden fish hooks, perhaps showing that as the sea levels rose people were constantly fishing along the new coast line.
I would imagine that in the US, liability would quickly force local government / whoever to take down the signposts, as they "entice" people to think there is a safe, established path and should risk their lives and are probably somewhat liable for the result.
I guess there aren't many places like this in the US, so it's hard to say whether there's a similar case. Maybe the Grand Canyon or something. Or off-slope skiing.
[0]: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wal... [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dYc0Ouxhx0
There is a high likelihood that a lot of customary rights of ways will miss the deadline.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/25/countdow...
EDIT I’m not English. In Ireland we have a similar legal system and under the “occupier’s liability act” I believe it’s called, once you display these signs prominently you are off the hook. Obviously, I am not a lawyer and this is merely my hazy take on things.
I'm not sure I agree in general though. There are tons of places in the US where you have hard to follow trails (and even roads) that aren't really maintained--especially in certain seasons.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2016/01/death-in-paradise-is-all-t...
Besides which states can't be sued except where their own laws allow it. Lawsuits over riptides on beaches or falling off the edge of mountains are not successful.
There has also been a crackdown by state legislatures over high-risk activity suits and injury during commission of a crime suits. In most states you can't sue the slopes/resort for breaking your leg while skiing, nor can a burglar sue a property owner for any reason whatsoever (because the injury occurred during the commission of a felony).
AFAIK the federal government also doesn't permit lawsuits over injuries in national parks or other such wilderness areas - not that you're likely to succeed. You knew or should have known hiking on the edge of the Grand Canyon is a high risk activity.
It's well worth a visit - it's a beautiful place. https://holy-island.com/gallery/ybphotography.htm
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/worm-s-head-tidal-island
As with most dangerous tides, it's not the height of the tidal change that's the problem it's the fact that it's very flat that means it comes in so fast.
'Although not, as is sometimes believed, formally classified by the Royal Navy as unnavigable, the nearby Grey Dogs, or Little Corryvreckan, are classified as such.[1] The Admiralty's West Coast of Scotland Pilot guide to inshore waters calls it "very violent and dangerous" and says "no vessel should then attempt this passage without local knowledge". Experienced scuba divers who have explored the waters have described it as "potentially the most dangerous dive in Britain"'
- Mountains of the Mind (a history and first-person account of mountain climbing)
- The Wild Places (a history and exploration of the 'wild' landscapes of the British Isles)
- The Old Ways (a history and exploration of the ancient paths of the world)
are all really excellent (and can be read in any order). He's a fabulous writer, kind of like a Kapuściński for the natural world.
I am fascinated by tidal areas. The tide is (or should be) a familiar feature to any British holiday maker. Many of our nicest beaches are completely submerged at high tide, such as Tenby. At low tide beaches are revealed allowing safe passage to islands which were cut off only hours before. Conversely, some beaches are nicer at high tide. The low tide at Weston-super-Mare leaves a mile of treacherous mud in place of the sea.
But these flats are the most fascinating of all. On first glance these areas can seem boring: vast stretches of mud, sand and saltmarshes with just a glimpse of sea right in the distance. But it's treacherous and mysterious. Apart from the odd samphire picker, nobody comes out here. Twice a day the landscape is utterly transformed by the tide. And it happens so quickly.
I recently visited a favourite place of mine in The Wash. There are two artificial islands here that were built as a failed experiment to build a freshwater reservoir. The smaller of the two is accessible across the saltmarshes which are usually dry. The path used to be a causeway, but these days the whole marsh is above mean high water spring. The larger island can only be reached by crossing the perilous mud flats at very low tide. But it's riddled with deep tidal channels and quicksand. Legend has it King John lost his treasure out here as his baggage carts were consumed by the rising tide.
On my recent visit I decided to go at a very high tide. The highest of the year. I expected it to be more fun as the island would be more like an island, but I didn't expect the saltmarshes to be completely flooded (even though this is well known by locals, and now me). We decided to wade across anyway. The water was knee deep and I was carefully looking out for tidal inlets. As the tide was now receding, these inlets begin to flow outwards like a river, and with enough force to carry you with them. I felt confident enough only because I'd been here before. We reached the island now an hour after highest tide. Within another hour the sea recedes enough to reveal bizarre looking fingers of water formed by the never ending tide as it gently washes in and out like clockwork every 6 hours.
When you read tide tables for an unfamiliar area the numbers don't really mean much, other than one is higher than the other. But think about it: a metre of water. That's how much higher the tide was on that day. If you live in a flat area just imagine how much would be covered with an extra metre of water. It's scary. But fascinating.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_...
> The island's name is derived from the Old English fugla-næss, with fugla (modern "fowl") meaning "of birds" and naess being the Germanic word for promontory