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A lot of young adults have abusive parents. The problem isn’t about shame but working full time without being able to afford a place of their own. USA has fallen so greatly in regard to the wellbeing of youth. I guess if people think that’s fine they should know it’s not that way in other first world countries. Young adults can even pay for university without taking on huge debt.

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Yep and one of the best ways to break the cycle of abuse it to be able to get your independence as fast as possible.

As a recent college student, I can personally contradict your claim that we can't pay for it without massive debt. I'm at a state school, worked during high school to save money (two jobs this past summer), and won a lot of merit scholarships that cover all of tuition and a chunk of room and board. The rest is covered by the 529 my parents set up: small, but there's very little left to spend.

Are you really that stupid to add that part at the end while trying to contradict my claim?

Holy needless personal attacks, Batman. To which part are you referring and for what reason do you term it "stupid"?

You obviously had better parents than most with the last sentence. Individuals with abusive parents don't have that outcome. You might want to educate yourself on how environment shapes one's character as well as genetics.

If there was 1 merit scholarship in all the world and you recieved it while 20 million college students were in debt would you be writing "I can personally contradict your claim" since debt doesn't effect you personally? You see the problem with your logic, no?

You're right, there probably aren't enough merit scholarships for everyone. But, state schools are still pretty reasonably priced. Furthermore, any student could have done the work to earn those, but didn't. So maybe you can see why my sympathy is limited. I spent my high school years working to save for college and to excel in my academics while others played video games and partied. The fact that there aren't enough merit scholarships for everyone doesn't change the fact that any one of them could have made choices that would have earned them scholarships, and didn't.

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