The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down
usatoday.com
usatoday.com
> We understand that DoD plans to cease publication of Stars and Stripes on September 30, 2020 and completely dissolve the organization by January 31, 2021 as a result of the proposed termination of funding in the fiscal year 2021 President’s budget. We urge you to take steps to preserve the funding prerogatives of Congress before allowing any such disruption to take place, for the following reasons.
> First, the House-passed version of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2021, contains additional funding not requested by the Administration to continue operating Stars and Stripes. Second, the Senate has not yet released a defense appropriations bill, nor had an opportunity to conference with the House position, leaving it as a real possibility that Congress may not agree with the proposal to eliminate this funding. Third, the standard text of a continuing resolution – that funds are provided “at a rate of operations… for continuing projects and activities” as provided for in the previous year’s Department of Defense Appropriations Act – places a legal obligation on the Department to not act on a termination of a program until a full-year appropriations bill is enacted. We seek your written assurance that the Department will comply with this obligation and avoid steps that would preempt the funding prerogatives of Congress.
https://www.boozman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2020/9/boozm...
Additional coverage:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/09/02/senators-espe...
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/bipartisan-group-of-senators...
Especially for things that took a substantial amount of time and effort to build, shouldn't we require much more scrutiny before considering an action that effectively dismantles/dissovles/destroys them? Instead it feels more like we are at the mercy of the whims of whoever is the current temp-employee-in-chief.
it's because it's incredibly difficult to get anything passed, the US legislative system has too many checks and balances. Every "check and balance" is another group that has to reach consensus for a proposed action and another point for an adversarial opponent to grind everything to a halt.
I contend that it is better to have a government that can reach consensus easily and act, and that is easy to change if they no longer reflect public consensus, than to have "checks and balances" where absolutely 100% of the government needs to be in consensus to do anything. Gridlock should not be a design feature of a government but that's how the system was engineered (deliberately - it dates from a time when states didn't view themselves as federal subjects but independent states, and this was supposed to help get everyone on board that "no, really, we're just going to do the things that absolutely everyone agrees on", there were many groups who were afraid of being steamrollered without their own special little body and checks on other authorities).
Unicameral parliamentary systems are better - one house to pass legislation, one PM who is a member of the majority in parliament, so everyone is on the same page. Snap elections if they do something that nobody likes, if they don't want to listen to the public then the queen can dissolve parliament and call for new elections.
(the queen actually is a very interesting role in the UK, she is kind of an "oracle" that decides deadlocks between the public and the parliament. When the two are in disagreement about whether to call elections she can resolve the stalemate. She really doesn't do much normally but in times of constitutional crisis can serve as a trusted independent authority - a very interesting safety mechanism that evolved almost by accident.)
It is better to have scrutiny in government - even if it isn't quite as agile.
You can still have scrutiny with agility. That is in fact what I am suggesting.
Firstly, parliament is not unicameral, because of the House of Lords. However, the Lords has a definitively subordinate position relative to the Commons, set down in law and procedure; it's used to do largely non-partisan technical work, like originate boring uncontroversial government bills (like the Air Traffic Management and Unmanned Aircraft Bill [1]), and improve bills from the Commons (it's sometimes called "the revising chamber" [2]). They can't block money bills, and they can only delay other bills [3]. So it's not exactly bicameral, either. Sort of sesquicameral.
Secondly, it's not clear snap elections are actually helpful, because if you need a majority to call one, they will be only be called when the party with the majority thinks it can win an even bigger majority. They certainly aren't a mechanism for correcting a drift between the government public consensus. They were seen as sufficiently antidemocratic that the UK sort of got rid of them, fixing the term of parliaments [4], but it hasn't entirely worked, because the one time a government wanted a snap election, the opposition agreed to it (and then lost by a small landslide!).
Thirdly, the queen doesn't decide deadlocks between the public and parliament. The queen doesn't decide anything - she deterministically follows the advice of her prime minister, because she knows that if she didn't, parliament would finish what Cromwell started. Furthermore the idea of "the public and the parliament [being] in disagreement about whether to call elections" is nonsensical, because that's something that is entirely parliament's decision. Perhaps you think she would take a more active role during a constitutional crisis; i rather doubt that, especially after what happened last time the crown did that [5].
[1] https://services.parliament.uk/Bills/2019-21/airtrafficmanag...
[2] https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmpu...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Acts_1911_and_1949
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_201...
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional...
(caveat: you said "things" which I took to mean something like "governmental products" which tend to have a high amount of inertia; if you had something else in mind this may not apply)
Republicans are just as adept at constructing things as deconstructing things. Look at No Child Left Behind (fundamental reconstruction of education), the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA (large new bureaucracies), or the TCJA (fundamental reconstruction of the tax system).
I think what we actually witness in government is two different phenomenons. First, Republicans act as a largely cohesive block that requires less coalition building. Second, Republican governing philosophy has as a central tenet the idea that government is inefficient and market-based solutions are better, from Reagan's "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help." to Grover Norquist's Starve the Beast theory "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
And the inverse of this is also true, there is an aphorism about the two parties voters, "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line." It seeks to explain why getting voters that agree with Democratic policies to the polls seems to be more difficult than getting voters that agree with Republican policies to the polls. This extends to the politicians, who pick largely from the same menu of issues but at different priority levels. This leads to the Democrats having to expend more effort to build coalitions, an example would be something like healthcare reform. Market-based solutions like the ACA have as much a home in the Democratic party as government-based solutions like Medicare For All (M4A). With a wider gamut of policy positions, more effort inevitably must be spent getting people to consensus.
This means that Republican governments get more of their goals done, and because of their governing philosophy many of those things are deconstructing existing programs. They are capable of putting new programs into place, I named a few but there are others, so it doesn't seem to me that the main difference is constructing new thing vs deconstructing existing things, but the amount of effort it requires to get your coalition to take action.
This all is an analysis of the efficacy of the two parties in accomplishing their goals, without really treading on the more dangerous ground of "who has the better goals?" I, like everyone else, have some opinion no this matter, but to try to keep the inevitable angry responses when discussing politics to a minimum, I'm going to just avoid discussing that altogether.
Does it require less coalition building, or are they just better at it? It never made much sense to me that a pro-choice/drugs/guns/prostitution libertarian from Nevada would vote for the same team as the social conservative corn farmer from Nebraska who wants to implement a Christian theocracy, yet when push comes to shove they seem to ignore each other and vote for the same party. I don't know how to explain that, other than Republicans are effective at pandering to two mutually incompatible philosophies at once.
Broadly speaking, small-c conservatism, hold the following central tenets "...tradition, organic society, hierarchy, authority, and property rights." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism, I know this is a wikipedia link, it is sourced to an actual text which doesn't appear to be online and so is not conducive to hyperlinking). It could be that their preference for hierarchy and authority extends to the legislators being willing to support the party leadership, regardless of their own personal policy preferences.
Another line of thought is that there is a Venn Diagram of sorts for those two politicians, and the policies that move forward are the ones where there is already agreement. For instance, we don't see a lot of legislation legalizing drugs or prostitution coming from the Republican party, because while the Libertarians might support that, not everyone does and coalition building is difficult. We do see a fair bit of pro-Christian actions from the party, but I think that could be attributed to reframing the issue as one of Religious Liberty which allows the Libertarian to either support it or not actively oppose it.
Largely though the legislation we see passed through is about areas that likely have broad support where little coalition building is required, tax reform, military spending, moves to reduce the scope of what most Republicans would agree are wasteful government programs.
I doubt the Republicans have found some new method for coalition building, if they had then you would expect more fringe Libertarian ideals like drug and prostitution legalization to have some presence in the conversation. It seems like even in the rather tame Marijuana legalization discussion the Republicans are staking out an opposition stance. Although the desire to make profit from Marijuana has turned some of the most ardent opponents into vocal supporters, as is the case for John Boehner.
This is just the nature of reality. Creation is incredibly difficult and requires immense struggle. Destruction is effortless. It took billions of years of biological evolution to reach a point where a mass of cells can be conceived, nurtured, and grown into a thinking breathing organism capable of manipulating its' environment. One single mindless, simple burst of radiation can completely destroy that. You're battling against entropy. The natural order of things is chaos, disorder, and dissolution. When the will to fight and struggle for an ideal is lost, the inevitable result is decay.
This is just the nature of things. It’s easier to destroy a car than to build one. Same for houses, plants, animals... anything complex, really. Destruction is generally easier than creation.
It seems like unusual thing to do, and considering the circumstances will surely cause some discontent (and, what's more importantly, if I'm not mistaken: discontent of some subset of Trump's supporters), so there must be some important reason to issue such an order. So what is it?
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08...
It seems Donny is trying to take out his frustration with lackluster polling on Star and Stripes, despite that not having been the publication that conducted the poll. It is a more widely read US armed forces publication, though.
To note on the poll, officers would rather have another Commander in Chief by about a 3-2 margin.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protes...
After that was published editor of The New York Times' editorial page James Bennet was forced out.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/media/james-bennet-new-york-t...
I am mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson and to protect the rights of law-abiding Americans, including your Second Amendment rights
The piece continues:
"He said he was already dispatching "thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel and law enforcement officers" to Washington to stop the violence that has been a feature of the protests here."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-consideri...
Later the Army realized he couldn't do that:
Hundreds of combat soldiers with the 82nd Airborne were ordered to leave Washington, D.C, Thursday after retired generals and the nation's top officer rebuked Donald Trump over his use of the military.
Members of the elite unit had been deployed to the nation's capital to back up National Guard soldiers ordered onto the streets by Attorney General Bill Barr in a show of force. ... While the capital is under federal control, the removal of hundreds of combat troops was a highly-visible sign that Trump had been forced into retreat on his threat to deploy soldiers under his control in protest-hit cities.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8389743/Generals-WI...
I chose the Daily Mail reporting because no one could accuse it of being a left wing mouthpiece. There are plenty of other sources if you google
If you prefer, you could take Trump's former Defense Secretary James Mattis' comments on the use of troops in Washington DC:
Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-m...
I'd further note that Trump has recently been talking publicaly about using the Insurrection Act to enable him to call out troops, again.
Looked at the article, but didn't see any. Perhaps it was cost? Does the Pentagon budget break out the cost of Stars & Stripes?
Soldiers and their families are, were rather, represented in print. Not any more.
What's that worth?
Now what do you have?
I'm pretty sure that's part of the reason they want to shut it down.
Are you saying that Stars and Stripes would deliver mail / messages to soldiers? I'd like to hear more of what you were saying.
I also feel like they can do without, all else being equal. Not being able to read a magazine isn't the end of the world.
Now you can't.
From the article:
> The eagerness to kill Stars and Stripes is hard to fathom. As the senators note in their letter to Esper, the $15.5 million saved by eliminating the newspaper’s subsidy would have a “negligible impact” on the Pentagon’s $700 billion budget.
That's 0.0022% of the Pentagons budget, i.e. essentially nothing.
This is the wrong way to think of it. It's either a positive use of money or negative.
But on top of that simplicity, Ryan Air for instance asks employees to steal pens from hotels.
They are extremists, but they run some savings that would be so silly they are negative to create a culture.
This however seems political. Someone is trying to make someone else look bad.
Even 1500 people's tax every year, which sounds worse, is still nothing.
Do you have a source for this? There is absolutely no way this is true. Are you including Social Security contributions as "federal income tax"? Or maybe did you mean the average American household pays $10k each year?
Say it's about $10k for federal, for ease of calculation. If it's less, then that means even more people's lifelong contributions are incinerated by a propaganda rag.
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-bud... says that payroll taxes and corporate income tax (in 2015) together are about the same contribution to federal income as individual income taxes, which puts a factor of 2 the other way in your estimate.
Then only $1 million of a program which costs $15 million would come from the "average American".
That’s the average that an American tax payer pays. That’s not what the average American pays. The difference is subtle, but meaningful. If I said, “I am an average American, how much can I expect to pay in federal taxes?” That number will not be $10k.
"Mean" is almost never correct for distributions that aren't near uniform, and never correct for distributions that aren't even near normal and not near symmetric.
As long as we're not measuring by physical stature, of course.
The answer to this question is in the eighth paragraph of the article, right before the discussion on how congress actually refunded the publication, the decision now resting with the senate and how the Pentagon ordered it to shutdown anyway which is unusual.
I will hasard that when you said you looked at the article it was to be taken literally and didn't imply that you actually read it.
Overnight, the defense contractor assembled a team of 20 people that were on the bench, so they could bill for the project. 20 random people that had never worked together before, all to work on an experimental java project the agency didn't need until that Monday (and I'd argue, didn't need even after that Monday). I suggested in that meeting "why don't we just return the money to the taxpayer?" and got glares from at least two senior executives.
Right there is 1/3 of the $15 million that is spent on Stars and Stripes.
With a $700bn budget, based on what I've seen of the defense industrial complex, I'd suspect at least 10% of that goes to complete waste (and toilet paper isn't waste. I mean things like IT projects that don't see the light of day, etc).
Unfortunately there is no longer any good way to report this crime. Official whistleblower channels are compromised or ineffective, and going directly to the public... well, there are plenty of cautionary examples of how poorly that tends to go.
So I wouldn’t say I witnessed it. I was called into a brainstorming session for “how can we spend this money? We need to come up with something quickly.”
> A few days ago they also ran a story about a poll showing Trump lagging Biden among the military.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/the-stars-...
> In February, the Trump administration proposed eliminating all of the publication’s federal support in 2021. That’s more than $15 million a year, about half its budget. “I can’t think of a graver threat to its independence,” the paper’s ombudsman, Ernie Gates, told me recently. “That’s a fatal cut.”
Sucks that you've been downvoted for pointing out a fact.
I hope we all got a good laugh over the idea that the Pentagon would ever be concerned with costs on the scale!
> The memo ordering the publication’s dissolution claims the administration has the authority to make this move under the president’s fiscal year 2021 defense department budget request. It zeroed out the $15.5 million annual subsidy for Stars and Stripes.
> The eagerness to kill Stars and Stripes is hard to fathom. As the senators note in their letter to Esper, the $15.5 million saved by eliminating the newspaper’s subsidy would have a “negligible impact” on the Pentagon’s $700 billion budget.
The implied reason is “because its funding wasn’t included in the (non-binding) presidential budget proposal “
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13019688734875648...
And how did this article get out he was cutting it?
His base is in part military and family's it's not something he would logically do 3 months before an election.
Perhaps he's not a good strategist. Evidence seems to suggest.
So it seems the media is attacking him on the military front.
The key question is: will he sue for libel or defamation? I expect he won't, and I expect he won't because truth is always an affirmative defense against those accusations in US law.
Which is the last the thing current administration wants anyone to be able to do.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13019688734875648...
Who harassed more journalist and whistle blowers during their time in office, Trump or Obama. Neither was great but the prior administration set new standards for threatening those who would make government justify its actions. The difference is one was a media darling and the other is a media flashpoint
He thinks he can do a lot more than he can, but we still should be fighting back.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Persons_convicted_und...
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/5/obama-and-le...
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/trump-denies-reports-that-he...
A few days ago they also ran a story about a poll showing Trump lagging Biden among the military.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08...
To note in that poll, ~60% of officers would like to have another Commander in Chief.
This memo happened before the story you linked.
In my mind this type of journalism, this article itself, is one of the biggest threads to our country, it's so ironic. Note that I'm not saying we shouldn't have freedom of speech, or that they shouldn't be able to write what they want. I'm just saying it's possible to write horrible, damaging, biased, political hit pieces, and that is what this is.
That's what this sounds like.
Whenever there's a budget fight, there's brinkmanship, and this is a common tactic. Government, industry - it doesn't matter. Respond to cuts or proposed cuts by putting something on the cut pile that is unacceptable.
This is a second-derivative tactic; it can be employed even if the first-derivative is positive.
I don't see what's inherently negative about government journalism, although I certainly wouldn't trust the independence of say Voice of America based on the way it's run. But the BBC shows it doesn't necessarily have to be that way.