What the world can learn from the UK's A-level grading fiasco
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Another big problem is that private schools seem to have made more realistic predictions of their students' results than state schools, as demonstrated by the fact that just taking many of their predictions as-is only caused slightly more grade inflation than in the state school results where 40% were downgraded - and this was portrayed in the press as proof that it was an attack on state schools because their results were disproportionately affected by the algorithmic downgrading.
A third problem is that what it was OK to be concerned about varied depending on which political side it benefitted. For example, there was a completely false and made up claim on social media and in publications that should know better that the Education Secretary had said taking the results would cause students to be promoted into jobs that they weren't competent to do: https://fullfact.org/education/gavin-williamson-fake-quote/ I can't imagine that it would've gone down any better if he claimed students would get onto courses they weren't good enough for, yet a week later after GCSEs went the other way and used predicted results that exact claim was uncritically regurgitated by the media.
I've never understood this UK policy personally. In the US there are no such caps and yet less-than-top-tier universities have had no trouble attracting plenty of students. Top tier US universities (e.g. Harvard), with gigantic endowments of tens of billions of dollars in some cases, could easily afford to expand their student bodies two-fold or probably even ten-fold, and yet they don't, despite having no regulations stopping them from doing so. These prestigious universities apparently feel more than enough market pressure not to expand very much, as they feel (rightly or not) that their prestige would take a hit by doing so. I don't understand what the point of creating additional regulatory pressure on top of this would be when e.g. Harvard expanding their student body could easily be a very positive life-changing event for so many students.
That "versus" is unwarranted - unless everyone is given top marks, exclusion happens in either case. In fact it would happen in that case as well, as top colleges (practically by definition of 'top') cannot accept everyone. All you've done is changed who gets excluded, by not adjusting for differing school grading.
> decision-makers that seem to fetishise exam grades
Calling it "fetishizing" is a fine way to suggest there's something wrong with it, without stating what, or how to improve it. Would it be better if, instead of on the basis of grades, students were judged based on who they know, or how much they can donate to the college?
But if those estimates are improved using statistics, there's a political fallout. There's some valid criticism of the algorithm used (far less than that BBC article tries to imply), but there's no question the algorithm's estimates were more accurate.
So much ink was spilled calling the algorithm biased for its 4% increase in A-grades for independent schools, yet teacher's 40% increase of grades above the expected average is... what? Unbiased?
On any other topic, such a position would be called "anti-science".
A roundabout way of saying that some students that would have been accepted to their chosen college, won't be, because their grades weren't as inflated as their competitions. Isn't that also potentially irreparable harm, not just "some unfairness"?
And a follow-up question: How many such cases were there? Where the adjusted estimate failed a student, but the teacher's estimate didn't?
Some people were predicted A's and given U's by the algorithm. It might have been less biased as an average. But it's results were nevertheless completely unacceptable.
This might be partially true, but there are also issues in the algorithm that helped cause this skew. For example depending upon the size of the glass the teacher's estimates were adjusted more or less. Very small classes (~8 students IIRC) had no adjustment, small classes (<20 students IIRC) had moderate adjustment, large classes (>= 20 students IIRC) had heavy adjustment. State schools almost never have small classes, while private and public schools (public != state school) were much more likely to fall into the small or very small class size buckets.
While I won't dispute the point on prediction accuracy, the press complaints were actually about the algorithm itself, which benefited students in a smaller corpus[0]. Typically, only private schools have such small class sizes.
If it weren't then of course private schools might also start giving more generous estimates.
But, also parents might still prefer a better education rather than a higher grade.
FYI public schools are private schools in the UK, the nomenclature is rubbish.
As others have said, you might just have to drop standards and have a lottery, or open enrollment. Putting in these ridiculously bad algorithms is worse than falling back on random chance.
High school/university is where it becomes easiest to hide behind bad logic and less obvious consequences. I hope we're not going to do the same for doctors, pilots, etc. and just let them pass the test because classes were canceled.
If the training of pilots one year was compromised so none of them could certified, we'd go a year without certifying any new pilots. We'd cope somehow. Universities can't go a year without any new students though, that's just not a reasonable outcome.
On the face of it basing grades on predicted outcomes and adjusting for the historical record of specific schools to overestimate those predictions seems to be a pragmatic approach.
If students who missed half a year of good teaching are just as smart by the end of compulsory education than previous cohorts who were not affected by COVID, then this illustrates a massive failing of the education system.
I have a feeling that this won't affect the attainment of students in the long-run, as the education system is flawed. Perhaps, in place of usual teaching, students are taking control of their own education and focus on their weak areas, rather than being told to copy down 10 pages from a textbook verbatim in a lesson standardised for the whole class. Perhaps this can be a much needed demonstration of the education system's weaknesses and an opportunity for change.
Everything I have read about this glosses over this critical bit which I am very curious about. I understand there is/was a worldwide pandemic and all of that, but it feels to me that there wasn't necessarily a reason exams couldn't be taken in socially-distanced class rooms (with students wearing masks, as well as the teachers, of course) or if needed be in repurposed venues, like football stadiums (leaving plenty of space between students).
Was there a concern for fairness should the exams proceed? Or was it safety? Or did the government put their foot down on no exams? Or was it the teachers/unions? What happened?!
Exactly what you’re proposing just isn’t feasible, because of the sheer numbers. I see American posters on reddit complain about having to do a handful of finals at the end of high-school, and the SAT/etc as well, which I understand is optional.
“In my day...” (wow I’m old... this was only about 12 years ago) my sixth-form had about 1,300 students (650 in yr12/L6, 650 in yr13/U6). Most L6 students did 5 AS-level subjects and 4 A2 subjects. Most subjects are then comprised of modules (e.g. In mathematics: Pure P1/P2/etc, Stats S1/S2/S3/etc, Mechanics M1/M2/etc, Decision/Discrete D1/D2/etc), and each module has its exam at the end of the term/trimester.
In my case, I took 5 subjects at AS-level (L6) and had no less than 8 exams in the May-June of my first year. Multiply that by 1,300 - with probably over 100 different exams. That’s almost 11,000 Covid-safe exam-sittings that need to be arranged.
Social-distancing regs mean that you need four times the floor-space for an exam room than previously (doubling distance from 3 feet to 6 feet in both directions). Doing exams outside on a field wouldn’t work: inclement weather and even a gentle breeze and writing on paper difficult and distracting. Doing it indoors means you’ll not only fill your sports-halls and cafeterias (which we did every year anyway) and need to spill-over into smaller classrooms - which means you need many more exam invigilators.
...and invigilators, in my experience, tended to be older people (60s-70s) - often recent retiree teachers. The exact same people who are quite legitimately fearing for their life over Covid so we can’t blame them for choosing to stay home.
...so we have a 2-month long period where schools and colleges need 4x the space and with far fewer authorised staff to oversee it.
Some schools will be able to handle it, others won’t. If it’s a combination secondary-school + sixth-form then they’ll also need to handle GCSE exams for the yr11 kids and SATs (unrelated to the US SAT exam) for the kids in yr9. Additionally schools also have “mocks” for yr10 (mock-GCSEs, but they still count towards your score in yr11). There may also be additional testing done for other years at the county-level. So that’s another few thousand exam sittings to add to that. My secondary-school sent the Yr7 and yr8 kids home for a week if they were overloaded with handling exams for so many. So if the LEA/exam-boards were to press-on with the exams then that’s unfair to the kids at schools that don’t have the capacity.
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Grading “by algorithm” - especially when that algorithm isn’t public - nor probably even we’ll-understood by the MPs in-charge - is a bad idea, yes. But I can’t think of a workable alternative: people’s lives should not depend on the outcome of exams - but we can’t trust teachers own subjective grading of their own students to be necessarily and sufficiently objective enough. There’s no economically-viable solution to this problem - even without a pandemic going on.
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Now that I think about it - I suppose one option would be still do in-person exams, but only do the core/essential exams for the most important course modules and use that as the basis for university admissions - so if this pandemic happened 12 years ago I’d only sit the P1/P2/P3/etc exams for mathematics and disregard Mechanics/Statistics/Discrete - ditto for physics, and so on. So the exam load would drop from my estimate of 11,000 to maybe 7,000-ish - I don’t think that would be small enough to manage still)
But people have since forever seen exams as a way to stand out from the crowd, individually. If you went to a bad school, exams were a chance to show some extra effort. If you were a slacker, you'd be found out.
Without the specific exam results, all you've got is the reputation of the school, and chances are variation within a school is greater than between.
I'd love to see the details of the algorithm itself. Surely it can't have been too difficult to put some guard rails in there to prevent it moving any grade more than say, two places (maybe even one) from the predicted grade.
Instead it seemed to have the freedom to do whatever it liked. Moving Bs to fails. Students predicted to fail getting As.
That's just incompetence on the part of whoever made that algorithm.
> You get your exam grade. If that isn't available, you get a grade set by averaging your peers from the same school, with the set of peers decided by a ranking set by your teacher. If that isn't available, you get a grade chosen by your raking in class selected from the distribution of your schools past performance.
There isn't really any fairer way that doesn't lead to grade inflation when there is an element of dishonesty/optimism on the part of teachers. We already suffer an element of grade inflation, which causes employers to say things like "You must achieve grade A* in Maths to apply for this job", and applicants from years ago before that grade was even introduced are automatically excluded.
IMO it's much better just to swallow the grade inflation for a year. It will naturally reset itself next year (when exams will be sat again), and the negative effect from it are pretty minimal.
The algorithm is based on the assumption that performance of successive school years at a given school is roughly consistent, not only as an average but as a distribution. And that assumption simply doesn't hold.
You're not alone, this is the thinking they're using. [0]
> the negative effect from it are pretty minimal
That doesn't sound right. Top-flight students will be disadvantaged.
When hiring, I'll be crossing off any qualifications earned in 2020. As well as the results being 'fake', the actual learning was in most cases not being done because the students knew they could chill at home and not learn. Sure, some students were studying, but as an employer I don't want to take that risk.
Would you want your doctor to be the one who messed around on TikTok for the whole year of his final exams?
Well they still have six years of medical school to get through. Perhaps the dropout rate for that will be higher.
It seems likely to hold pretty consistently.
What's the variation?
My school had it applied to one of my exam subjects for the entire year. I suspect the exam papers were lost/stole/destroyed after we took the exam, but before they were marked. Not sure how, but everyone was assigned 100%, and nobody complained...
The two systems used are teachers' grade predictions, and the grade-prediction algorithm.
We discussed this two weeks ago at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24191882
Grade inflation is a completely different topic and has happened even more now that they've decided you can have whichever grade is higher out of predicted VS algorithm, grades are up something like 20% on last year.
What was particularly inexcusable though was the government response - the implications of the algorithm were available to the government weeks before the results, and the public backlash from Scotland having similar problems happened a day before.
Now you could argue that to avoid grade inflation as a while the government should have proceeded regardless, however wen the inevitable backlash occurred (predictable since July and known since the Scottish exam results earlier in the month) they turned round.
This u-turn came too late for many students to benefit yet wiped out all benefits of grade inflation prevention - literally the worst of both worlds.
Well that is unlikely. If you are going to handle it algorithmically then what else would you expect. Clearly the teachers can't be relied on because now everybody is getting an A*, the grades are effectively useless as an indicator.
I was disappointed although not surprised that the government caved on this.
Secondly, many students and teachers complained. This second reason is the thing that "the world can learn" that the article focuses on.
Of course students complained, I would if I didn't get the grades I was hoping for. That doesn't mean the government has to cave in and pretend everybody is a winner.
This can also be explained by teachers assessments being an accurate representation of students ability, but students traditionally not faring as well in exams as their ability would suggest due to exam taking being an additional unrelated skill.
fwiw though, you only need to look at some of the outliers to see that the algorithm failed. It's all very well to say that it produced a consistent result in general, but each result specifically applies to an individual person so needs to be fair to each person as well as in general.
While nobody's fault, imho we'd have been much served by admitting that they're not comparable and doing something else (e.g. add an extra qualifier to the grade or something) than by trying to make them comparable and obviously and predictably failing at it.
I'm not arguing it's perfect, I'm just saying what we have now is worse in the aggregate. If you inflate so many grades then the grades become meaningless. You have devalued the work of the high achieving students.
Interestingly the private schools seem to be to be grading their students more accurately, the problems were more common in state schools. The moron in a private school was unlikely to get their grades inflated. I'm not a fan of private schooling but in this case they appeared to be doing the right thing.
There will always be outliers, no system is perfect but what we have just done is worse in my mind.
I had a passing thought of a different system - using basically the same calculation of a school's predicted grades, allocate each school a 'budget' of marks they can distribute as they see fit, based on whatever criteria they pick. Just to be clear, I don't think that's a particularly good system either, but a canny government could have deployed it to avoid much of the direct criticism.
This doesn't require assumptions of naïveté on their part about equality of opportunity w.r.t teaching quality, schools resources and so on.
I suspect you've not actually thought this through.
Awful, unethical, but fascinating
1. took a GREAT deal of pleasure in loudly trashing the Scottish government in the press ...
2. knew they faced the EXACT same issue themselves ...
3. did absolutely nothing about it ...
4. then did a frantic cleanup of the attacks (deleting tweets and such) after the English debacle unfolded
At this point I shouldn’t be surprised. It’s to be expected - they’re politicians playing their little game. But this debacle was avoidable - they could have faced the music earlier and started coming up with an alternative, but they chose instead to gloat, score a cheap win and kick the metaphorical can down the road.
You could hold them outside, and stagger them so there are ten papers, and then just normal-curve-adjust to the first paper.
Other countries already do multi-day tests easily. And if you don't want to do curving, just treat it the way you treat GREs/IELTS/TOEFL etc. Don't curve and just use overall percentile.
Can you name a good test by your standards?
Given British weather, this would be a desperate gample at best.
> They have stadiums and stuff.
I don't think even Eton have their own stadium.
It might be worth you considering a different country's culture before generalising sweepingly.
It's solvable.
The solution would have been not to completely close schools in the first place - there was no evidence that children were particularly susceptible to COVID or at risk then, and there's lots of evidence now that they aren't. Exams could well have taken place as normal - exam halls are, by definition, socially distanced.