Two protesters shot dead in Kenosha

theguardian.com

6 points·martythemaniak··3 comments

I really hate how that article uses the word "victim". Murderous rioting attackers are not victims, even if they lose the fight and die, and they are nothing like what "protesters" would suggest.

It's also implied that Jacob Blake was an innocent person. He had already attacked the police, refused to cooperate, and appeared to be reaching into his car for his gun. Of course he got shot. He has a long and very violent criminal history too. It includes: resisting arrest, causing injury to police officer, carry a firearm while intoxicated, disorderly conduct, criminal trespass to dwelling, domestic abuse, 3rd degree sexual assault...

The bad reporting is encouraging violence and getting people killed. People think an innocent man was just killed in cold blood by the cops, for racism or no reason, but that just isn't the case.

dude, american citizens don't get the death penalty without a trial. It's that simple. Even if they're murderous rioting attackers, or don't cooperate with police. Arbitrary killing, that is, killing without an open, fair trial, will cause greater problems than it solves.

American citizens have the right to self defense. Deadly force is authorized.

Worst case, there are a couple states that require the victim (the real one) to attempt to retreat from the attacker if that is possible. Even in those states, the Kenosha riot victim would have had the right to shoot with intent to kill. Cops also don't have to retreat, and they too have the right to self defense.

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