World needs to reciprocate to China in like India did recently. If China is a closed garden with entry gates controlling the inflow into China, World needs to build exit gates controlling the outflow from China. No other justification is required.
Your point of view---responding to a perceived "threat" by abandoning our principles and freedoms---is why Bin Laden and the terrorists won 9/11.
How responding back by blocking companies is tyranny? Who had oppressed if TikTok it's blocked?
> is why Bin Laden and the terrorists won 9/11
How ??
Millions of Americans who use TikTok. Thousands of Americans who work at TikTok. American investors in ByteDance.
And, when anyone's rights are violated, everyone's rights are violated.
> is why Bin Laden and the terrorists won 9/11
Massive curtailment of freedom and massive growth of the police state in the aftermath of 9/11. This has caused far more harm to Americans than the attack itself. Bin Laden achieved what he wanted, which was to cripple our freedom and cause us to lose confidence in ourselves.
And I do believe the authoritarianism it's a kind of protectionism, a strategy that allows them to grow economically and politically while defending from foreign intervention, and find likely that they will reduce the authoritarian policy to US levels if they achieve the kind of hegemony that US has... But I might be wrong. So there's real danger.
WoW, lots of angry words. West has its problems but they don't compare to China. But to the current point if Google is restricted in China why should TikTok have free reign ?
And to elaborate on threat to the world:
1. Who caused current pandemic and why?
2. How many died in Wuhan any why there is no honest disclose despite entire world suffering?
3. Why China is engaged in border conflict with every single neighbor on some pretext or other?
4. How do you justify oppressive social credit system?
2. I cannot believe you're arguing mishandling of the pandemic => threat to the world when we can all see that Western countries are struggling so much more to muster a proper response. China is open again.
3. How much prosperity and development did the US cost South America? Vietnam? Iraq? How do border squabbles compare to the damage the UK inflicted on India?
4. This is a threat to the world..how? And we've arrived at the same place with credit rating, social pressure, woke culture, so what do I care whether it's the government imposing it or the people?
> West has its problems but they don't compare to China
You don't get to just assert this as an obvious truth. It's decidedly non-obvious to anyone not drunk on Western Kool-Aid. My position is that they are closer than you think, and that you prefer the West because you are part of the West. Which is understandable - but let's drop the pretenses.
3. How Western imprelism are a justification for Chinese incursions into their neighbor's territories? How exactly China is going to bring development by accquiring territories of neighbors?
4. They aren't comparable. In China you just vanish the moment like the Wuhan Whistle blowers vanished.
I understand you love CCP so good luck.
Would saying that genocide is bad be political? What about if a country's government and people believed in genocide of a specific race -- would saying that said country is committing genocide be political? If it is political, is it bad to be politically against that?
What is the actual problem with being political, especially when being 'political' means being on the right side of morality?
But to the current point if Google is restricted in China why should TikTok have free reign ?
And to elaborate on threat to the world:
1. Who caused current pandemic and why?
2. How many died in Wuhan any why there is no honest disclose despite entire world suffering?
3. Why China is engaged in border conflict with every single neighbor on some pretext or other?
4. How do you justify oppressive social credit system?