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Simple question to whoever is honestly defending Apple: What if Windows prevented people from installing anything on their computer except from the Microsoft Store. Then Microsoft forced every app to use their payment system and then charged an excessive 30% fee for each transaction. Would you think that's an abusive and illegal practice?

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I might be mistaken, but wasn't this the policy Apple had since the beginning of AppStore? Every developer and user knew from the beginning what they are getting into. With Windows it is different, no? It would be a drastic change to a product, which operated differently at the beginning.

Yes, the fee has been there since the beginning, if you use their payment system.

I think the new and problematic policy is that they now

- forbid you to use other payment systems than their own

- forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

- forbid you to mention to the user that they can pay on the company's website or through other channels

Also their own product's don't have to pay the fee. So Apple Music can charge 30% less than Spotify or Spotify can distribute significantly less of the revenue to the artists.

Honestly, it escapes me how these three condition can be legal conditions. I don't in EU you can actually do that.

> forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

That’s new to me. Any source of that?

>- forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

But google does exactly that for their Youtube Premium(and Youtube music). I'm sure this isn't prohibited.

Thats already the case , it’s Windows S.

But you have the choice between regular Windows and Locked down version.

Not on ARM. There you only have a choice between Microsoft store apps or emulated x86 applications. You're not going to use Firefox on Windows on ARM unless you download the x86 version which will perform very poorly.

No, you can run native ARM apps sourced from outside the windows store.

Not true here is the download to the exe for Windows Firefox ARM build. Took me 10 seconds to Google it....

https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/relea...

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