PolitiFact tried to examine claims from the LA mayor and health director that: "it’s highly likely given the increased numbers that we’re seeing that some of this is in fact people who may have been in a crowded situation at one of the protests where there was spread."
They concluded:
> there’s not enough data to draw any definitive conclusions ...
> Medical experts say the protests likely contributed somewhat, but so did family gatherings [and] the reopening of businesses
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/how-much-did-...
A Marion County Florida Sheriff ordered that staff and visitors to his office cannot wear masks. That order is uncivilized behavior. The state governor should have removed him from power. People speeding on roads get sanctioned more, for being less of a menace to society.
At least the kooks who wear masks to have Zoom conference calls aren't subjecting anyone to risk their health or life.
Certain people apparently do.
Unless we build a wall around every developing country this will be going on for years.
The economy can bounce back from one quarantine, can it bounce back from 12?
NZ is seeing what has just happened in VN only days before and acting on it because they know what will happen if they don't.
NZ leadership has chosen this illogical and self-destructive path because they don't understand risk or data or, apparently, economics.
Edit: I can't reply due to rate limiting, but you can't just dismiss the resurgences of cases in Europe because the absolute number of cases is small now - this is exponential growth with a rather alarming exponent, and that always starts out small until it isn't. Remember, it takes the same amount of time to go from say 1 to 2 cases per 10k as from 15 to 30.
It isn’t binary. All economies will take a hit. But if the US was doing 30x better then the economy would be better.
And if there is any seasonality at all the Fall could get quite a lot worse and make the economy worse than it already is.
As a counterexample to that claim, the Euro zone GDP fell 12.1% in the second quarter. That's an annualized rate of 40%, even worse than the widely reported annualized drop of 33% in the US.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/euro-zone-gdp-q2-2020-as-cor...
There is a sliding scale here, of course. If we locked everybody in their houses, we could get the covid numbers to 0, but it would also completely destroy our economy, and obviously would result in substantial loss of life due to the effects of poverty. What the US has done instead is to take a hit on covid in service of economics. So far it seems to be working (with regards to GDP, I mean.)