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I feel like trolling the US Marshals with credit card fraud is a bad idea.

"FAILURE TO PAY FOR ITEMS WILL RESULT IN ACCOUNT DEACTIVATION AND DENIAL FROM PARTICIPATION IN ANY FUTURE GASTON & SHEEHAN AUCTIONS, LIVE OR ONLINE."

The consequences seem pretty light.

That doesn't preclude other punishments, no? Fraudulent auction bids are presumably fairly illegal, so criminal persecution is presumably also a possibility.

> Fraudulent auction bids are presumably fairly illegal

Someone's never been on Ebay

It’s like ebay, but where every seller has a gun, federal backing, and literally gets paid to arrest people.

It's an auction house. They aren't giving the Marshal's service item level updates. They just give the sale to the number 2 bidder and move on.

So what you're saying is, I need 2 accounts, bid $15 with one and then up myself with the fraudulent account to $500 and get the item for 15?

People actually do this on eBay sometimes

The sale goes to the number 1 bidder at some bid increment higher than the number 2 bidder's maximum bid. The current price shown is that amount, not the number 1 bidder's maximum bid. It implements a modified Vickrey auction using an autobidder.

Sounds like the solution is to be not American.

If you goal is to defraud the U.S. Marshals Service I mean.

Like what is the U.S. Marshals Service going to do to a Romanian trickster?

>> Like what is the U.S. Marshals Service going to do to a Romanian trickster?

Get him extradited in the US after possibly serving some time in Romania as well?

> <insert the DVD Jon story here>

Ah, that's a story I havent't seen cited in a long time.

Wife screamed at me threatening to divorce...blah blah. So illegal prob not but ban yes.

You're under no legal obligation to pay if you make a bid.

Using a stolen credit card, on the other hand...

I've been (not bidded) in cattle auctions in Brazil and they always announce that auction bids are irreversible.

There's quite a leap from "you can't change or revoke your bid" to "it's illegal to make a bid you have no intention of fulfilling."

On a bidding site nobody bans like Gaston! "I'm especially good at deaaaaactivations!"

Oh no, what are they going to do? Go find some random poor fool you stole the card from and kick their door in? I'm sure the credit card thieves are quaking in their boots.

US police at all levels are an impotent force against online crime. Once in a while they catch some guy and then they parade it around but the likelihood of that is microscopic.

They seemed to catch the twitter hackers pretty quickly. shrug.

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