The Woeful Inadequacy of School Reopening Plans
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See also these resources:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZWuyvBAWWQ
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDj4Zyq3yOA
* https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/opinion/coronavirus-tests...
Is this “possible” in that it exists and the FDA hasn’t acted on it or this is test only theoretical?
https://www.stopcovid.science/
> IMPORTANT NOTE: The STOPCovid kit and protocol should not be used for clinical purposes. Although we have validated the kit on patient samples, this test is not FDA authorized. We welcome researchers working with COVID-19 samples to request a starter kit for further experimental testing.
Personally I think it’s way too soon to reopen schools really anywhere, even in cities or countries with mask mandates and positive test rates around 1% or lower.
We just absolutely don’t know what the effects will be. We’ve never shut down school buildings for months and reopened them. We’ve never needed to understand the effects on busing, learning rates, transmission via children to adults, effects of children being back in these buildings, etc. etc.
It feels so shortsighted to act like the only issues we need to certify are first order, direct properties of the virus itself, like testing, masks, transmission rates, and not being more humble to say, wait a minute, we just totally do not know all the effects or edge cases we need to be worried about.
But I reject the framing that this is a question of FDA being a bottleneck. That's not it, at all.
There is a criminal chaos actor, and larger political group, operating at the federal level in the US. Entire workflows aimed at actual public health and safety have been disrupted and compromised.
It will not be possible to move forward until the chaos is removed from the system.
For our daughter we are still up in the air on what to do and school begins in a week or two and they are doing distance learning for the first quarter of the year.
Note I am assuming kids can spread it as well as adults there may not conclusive evidence of this but it’s the safest assumption route to go down.
As in, I actually took babysitting classes at that age, it was common and socially accepted.
It is possible to do child care safely, as some programs in NYC remarkably demonstrated over the spring and summer, but it is all too easy to fail. And even "success" still involves some level of infection, spread, and risk of death or long term health impacts in the participants.
The overall aggregate risk may be low, but the predictability in any particular case is also low, so engaging is something like playing a game of Russian Roulette.
That said, in NYC, we are open to having our 3 kids return to in-person school, at least in the 1st quarter, while we expect 2nd and 3rd quarters over winter to be full lockdown. Even if there is a return for the start of 1st quarter, we do not expect it to last, as the temporary quarantine bar is low, and the overall fragility of the dependencies and relationships required is high.
Younger children are not very likely to maintain distance from one another nor will they keep their masks on. They're also likely to talk loudly or scream which would increase the likelihood of viral transmission. Unfortunately, distance learning is not a realistic option for younger children.
> Note I am assuming kids can spread it as well as adults
I have not kept up with research about how likely covid-19 is transmitted between people when comparing adults versus children. But looking at historical data in terms of viral transmission between children in school and daycare settings and the fact that children tend to be less fastidious compared to adults, it stands to reason that their will be viral outbreaks regardless of what measures the school takes.
We don't have any of this, and it's aggravated by a large population of aggressively ignorant and anti-science parents.
Israel was one of the models for controlling COVID-19, and school reopening completely wrecked their progress.
With our level of infections, and essentially none or useless testing, there is no need to plan. We are all agreeing we are creating a massive spike.
This is what came to mind for me. I've lived in Georgia my whole life. In fact my hometown is right on the county line of Paulding County. There have been plenty of quips about the unenforceability of a mask mandate, but they can enforce rules against spaghetti strap tops or above-the-knee shorts. The first thing that came to mind when I read it was Road Rage Randy bursting into the principal's office demanding to know why his son was told he'd have to wear a dangerous, oxygen-restricting, anti-freedom muzzle to come to school this morning. It might be unenforceable just because of unhinged dads.
Judging by the stream of Facebook posts and arguments in comment threads among my own family, people I went to church with as a child, and other connections from "outside the city," the anti-scientific beliefs are deeply entrenched here. The zeitgeist is some kind of rapidly evolving mixture of: it's just a flu, the numbers are faked, masks rob you of oxygen, there's nothing you can do about a virus we just have to live with it like we do colds every year, vaccines weaken your immune system. To compound the madness, this crap is all mixed with reactions to Black Lives Matter protests. I'm losing it.
I also dislike the fact that they haven't even bothered to experiment with different ideas, but are instead just going full steam ahead with normal school schedules in spite of the fact that literally every sector in the province is doing things very differently to suppress the spread of the virus.
And then all of the people those people interact with.
Children do not exist in a vacuum. This is the point.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/how-man...
"one in four teachers (24%, or about 1.47 million people), have a condition that puts them at higher risk of serious illness from coronavirus. This percentage is the same as the one we found for workers overall"
Let the old stay home
How will the 1.47 million teachers mentioned above pay their bills and put food on the table?
Again what are you going to do if we dont get vaccines?
That's what everyone is trying to figure out. Telling the old and frail to quarantine themselves just isn't the answer, because old and and frail people work for a living, and live with relatives who have children, and live alone but have family members that come to care for them, etc. etc.
its still 75% who are not in danger and even among the 25% there are still many who would teach anyway. Of course its the answer to tell the old and frail to quarantine just like we are now. putting the eorld to a stop is what is not an answer
What did you mean when you said that "we already know children aren't being affected"?
Infighting within the union, however, is new, and sad. Both are true-
* the plans that have been made are very far to the conservative- preservation of health and safety- end of the spectrum.
* any return involves risk of infection, and with that risk of death or permanent health damage. During the awful spring peak, more than 100 teachers and low level staff and administrators died.
Teachers sign up for extremely difficult work- dealing not only with the dynamics of their children in the classroom, but because children are sensitive lenses for their families, with the dynamics of the families as well. That emotionally difficult work is fundamentally different from work that is risky from a health perspective.
In an ideal world, all workers would continue to be paid, and those who decided to subject themselves to these new hazards would receive hazard pay for doing so, as well as additional insurance and care protections, but would not be required to and could work fully remotely. That's what would be right, but that's not what is happening, and that it's not happening is not the DOE's fault, nor the union's fault. It's the fault ultimately of the US political leadership.
A lot more resources should have been put into that instead of 100 COVID tracker apps.
But technical professionals != elementary school kids.
You get all the headaches of contracts and support agreements with government bodies as customers, all the headaches of oversight for a product that affects children, and none of the upside of a customer willing to pay a high price.
Governments are tragically slow to invest in infrastructure, and when they finally do it’s usually garbage built by a patchwork saga of contractors way over budget and behind schedule.
We are biological/physical/chemical/etc embodied entities, with a spectrum of interactions, especially sub-teen- the range of which far exceeds present understanding.
Children need literal human contact, on real-life modalities, to survive and thrive. A child raised by screens would die.
For the later high school set, potential improvements within the limited screen modalities have some value, but still- this all reminds of early AI framings, where a machine playing chess was thought to be the sum total of human engagement capability. Those making the argument didn't even know how not-even-wrong they are.
Parents who can work at home who have children may want the schools closed. Parents who can't work at home may want them open. And full-time teachers and administrators would want them closed because they'll still get paid.
As a 57 year old who never had children, I wonder why can't they have some sort of compromise. A-L goes to school from 8-11, M-Z goes to school from 12-5. Classrooms are half-empty and separated, and they don't have lunch service in school (except for needy famillies) to minimize risk of spreading COVID. I've never seen things like this proposed. Certainly the teachers won't want it--because they'll have to work.
Consider how much is riding on a vaccine now. The CDC is a non-player at this point and hasn't been since March. The three pillars of rolling back a pandemic (testing, contact tracing, and isolation) lie in shambles. Other countries' success in rolling back infections point to a massive failing within the US.
And that leaves the vaccine. The consensus is that early next year one will be available.
What if that doesn't happen?
It wasn't too long ago that Americans were being asked for "15 days to stop the spread." What if the actual time turns out to be measured in years? Decades?
What effect will a protracted period of wave after wave of infection transmitted through well-meaning but ignorant school administrators have on public education? On the fabric of society?
For citizens of the US, it sucks.
Behavior at the federal level on COVID overall-
* refusal to engage
* denial of reality
* hiding of data
* propagation of false information and fraudulent non-solutions
* obstruction of useful state and city-level plans
plus indications of misappropriation for financial gain are plainly criminal. That criminal acts are carried out by elected officials at the time of pandemic is a level of sociopathic abuse that cannot be tolerated in democratic society.Actions in the context of schools derive from the sociopathy. Only one district- the largest, NYC, operating in the context of NYC's largely self-governing citystate bubble- has been able to even get into a position to have a rational, non-politicized conversation about reopening.
As a parent in NYC following the conversation very closely I am engaging with the school system to continue the discussion about return and can see best case circumstances that permit me to feel comfortable with my kids attending in person- which IMO is much, much better from social/emotional and intellectual perspectives than remote. But given the chaos and worse orchestrated at the federal level, I expect the in-person program to not last even to the end of the first quarter, and as winter sets in, expect a grim, difficult lockdown.
I find behavior and reports eg. from Georgia so saddening, and so utterly astonishing. Even theories like Stockholm Syndrome fail to explain to me the degree to which families are willingly marching to their own needless, often permanent harm.
The bottom line is that the most important interests a community and society serve are those of its children. A democratic society expects elected officials not only to act in accordance with those interests but to possess the attributes that allow them to hear and listen and respond in a balanced way across the range of views of their constituents. That's not what we are seeing.
Many officials presently in power at the federal level- and many of a particular party at the state and municipal levels- are not fit for that level of public service, should resign or be expelled, and should face the consequences of their criminal actions, including forfeiture of their private assets, which many have grown through graft, misappropriation, and corruption.
Whether or not one thinks these consequences can actually be brought to bear is a different question. One has to identify the right answer first, then fight to achieve it.
Best wishes.
Send little kids to school. Don't send older kids. The nuance starts there.
https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/children-a....
School closures are having a disproportionately negative impact of poor and middle class families, whose parents can’t work from home. These families relied on schools to not only teach but to supervise and feed children.
Both Cuomo and POTUS agree on this, which tells me there’s more to the story than what the author is letting on.
Using schools for daycare facilities isn't an honest discussion of the drawbacks of leaving schools closed either.
Another alternative is to pay workers a fair living wage sufficient for everyone to afford private care.
> ... Indeed, many people who care deeply about vulnerable populations in ways that he has never shown are desperate to open schools. Children can be less safe at home than they are at school; families can face a crisis if a parent or guardian (often a mother) has to stay with a child rather than go to work.
> But as Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, put it last week, when she announced that all school instruction in her city will be remote at least until November, we have now moved to “a very different place in the arc of the pandemic.”...
It’s like saying “War is good, but sometimes war makes people unsafe”.
I was responding to a complaint that these other positions weren’t discussed with the concomitant implication that the author was lazy and/or biased.
To put it another way: I could write an essay on progress in cleaner burning car engines; if I did I know I would say something like, “of course the real fix is electric, hydrogen perhaps, or some other less-polluting source, but for now this is the important problem at hand”. I’d be annoyed if someone then complained, “but we shouldn’t have emissions at all”