On Tesla's induction motor
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In many cases, it's cheaper to (try to) solve these problems with smart drive electronics, i.e., add additional complication to the cheap part of the system rather than to the expensive part. But for the highest output machines---multi-megawatt generators, for example---synchronous machines remain king.
There are some other fun things you can do with motor drive electronics. A lab mate of mine in grad school wrote a cool thesis on using the iron in an induction machine as an electric transformer in such a way that the motor drive and power converter could be controlled independently. In essence, in a Y-connected three-phase system, the motor is insensitive to 3rd harmonic content in the drive signal, so you can pass energy through the air gap in the 3rd harmonic and rectify it on the other side to turn your induction machine into the magnetics for a power converter.
http://www.hizook.com/blog/2010/12/07/electropermanent-magne...
Do you know of any other "cool" motor hacks?
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/evdl-syn...
http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/18013
"We propose a novel variation of a doubly-fed induction generator which aims to improve power density and simplify construction. Our design is a doubly-fed, dual-rotor, axial-flux, permanent-magnet machine."
The magnets for that thing were truly scary. Every once in a while I gave him a hand with the assembly and it took three or more of us to safely install each magnet in the rotor.
Variable frequency 3-phase inverters which can support the current capacity to generate 100HP+ (75KW) was really only invented with iGBTs in the last couple of decades. The article doesn't mention that the inverters have to be cooled, as they are a significant source of heat as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated-gate_bipolar_transist...
Its disadvantage relative to the induction motor is that it requires some cleverness in its controller and/or sensors in order to run at all. I actually wrote some control software for one as a side project - it was a somewhat frustrating experience (though a good portion of the frustration was due to malfunctioning hardware).
I've been quite interested in repurposing the little Dyson "digital motor", but I suspect that a complete drive system redesign would be necessary to enable full variable RPM control (ie. 0-max, in both directions).
Question for turbofail: did your project happen to use the SRM motor from the Neptune front-load washers, or some other motor?
If you look at the efficiency from, say, coal burned in the power station to electricity in the batteries to driving, electric cars fare similar to internal combustion engines. (Burning your fuel in the big power station is more efficient than a car's internal combustion engine, but going through the extra steps of transmitting the energy to your home and then into the batteries eats some of that.)
And advances to generation technology increase the efficiency of everything downstream accordingly.
And perhaps most importantly: you avoid compromising a technology's best efficiency curve in the quest to meet the demands of the driving model.
e.g. even if you're burning fossil fuel to generate power, for whatever reason, there are vastly more-efficient ways to do it than the way we do in in-car ICEs. Those ways just happen to be ill-suited to the power-demands of personal vehicles.
Energy technology should ultimately improve our versatility. Putting batteries in a car doesn't achieve that goal just yet.
This all happens because there are a few folks who naively believe that batteries are a clean way to store energy.
You've gone from suggesting the batteries are insufficient to suggesting that correcting your misinformation and fear-mongering will itself raise the price of ICEs and their fuel.
You're burning down strawmen of your own imagining.
In any case full electric cars allow centralized power generation, in turn allowing more opportunities for clean power.
But, for 95% of trips, an overnight charge at 120V is sufficient.s
In theory. I can see at least a couple of challenges in making such a system feasible. It's not like you can just shove the batteries into a massive underground tank, for example.
An electric vehicle is more specialized as a every-day commuter vehicle. It is cheaper in that duty.
Like a gas car, your cell phone can do anything your desktop can do, but your desktop is better suited for some tasks (i.e. faster for writing letters) even if its mobility is less.
I remember when I was in the Army that our 5-ton dump trucks had lots of onboard stuff running off pressurized air, presumably making the vehicle more durable to electrical failures
Combine with local stored fossil fuels, and basic mobility/counter-mobility, and you have a harder-to-cripple ground force.
Note the transmission type is listed as "AC electric"
85-90%: typical brushless DC motors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor#Brushless_DC_mot...
92.4%: minimum standard for 125hp NEMA B motors: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/electrical-motor-efficienc...
96%: new record efficiency achieved in 2009: http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2009/...
The cables would be as thick as your arm.
You can do battery swaps instead, but it requires an infrastructure build out first.
I'm implying that these are the specs necessary for an electric car to truly be taken seriously as a replacement for a gas vehicle.
Furthermore, charging at a higher voltage, say even 720 volts (about twice the current roadster's voltage) gets you down to 500 amps to charge a Tesla in 10 minutes, which is manageable for cables. Charge stations could have a reserve/buffered system they can charge from that way they wouldn't be hitting the grid all at once if 5-6 cars show up. You could do a similar thing at your house (basically a large UPS)
The battery swap thing is a pipe dream, IMO.
One rod per hogshead is 4.7 million liters per 100km, 0.021 m/ℓ, or 49μmiles per gallon.
The big concern I have is that we'll end up with more expensive hybrid cars and China will have the cost-effective stuff.
As another example: In the last 20 years there has been an explosion in the power of mathematical optimization, because numerics got fast and stable enough that algorithmic techniques that had been put into the bottom drawer decades ago have been resurrected. Those techniques were initially numerically unstable (or needed too much computation to keep them stable).
I bought my truck used. I bought it with 150k miles on it and I plan to put on another 400k miles before it goes to the big diesel garage in the sky. These f'ing Prius yuppies buy a car every 2 years thinking that saving a few gallons of gas is going to save the planet. Try saving the environmental cost of producing that horrible pile of radioactive and chemical garbage by buying a 10 year old used car and driving it for the next decade.
Edit: And buy American darnit!
This ultimately gets back to the allegation that the dust-to-dust cost of a Prius is less eco-friendly than that of a HumVee, which is a meme that was running around few years ago, and which was ultimately debunked based on a number of faulty assumptions, some of which you make in your argument.
- There is no resale market for Prii
- A Prius won't last as long as a more standardly built vehicle
- The Prius uses an extraordinarily large amount of nickel, which is toxic and/or unrecoverable.
As I said, these were ultimately proven false enough that no informed person can seriously believe that a gas guzzling Hummer is better for the environment. I'd wager the same argument holds true for an F150 as well.
As for the presence of radiation in neodymium, you probably have the same amount of radiation in your alternator, only your alternator isn't shielded, as it is in Prius batteries. Pepto Bismol is also radioactive, and has a half-life longer than the age of the universe -- it doesn't necessarily imply that it's unsafe.
Also, please, let's try to keep the drama down, pretty please? There is a great deal of rhetoric and emotion in your post that needn't be there.
That, along with an ignorance for the environmental impact of the materials used in a Prius was my point.
Also, please, let's try to keep the drama down, pretty please? There is a great deal of rhetoric and emotion in your post that needn't be there.
You definitely imply (both in your original post, and in this one) that every Prius owner is buying a new Prius every few years. That is a logical fallacy, in a variety of ways -- both that it is fact, and that it is necessarily bad. Even if that is the case, then that means there is bound to be a very good supply of cheap Prius cars available for the secondary market. Hooray.
The true fact of the matter is that producing cars (or trucks) is bad for the environment. A Prius may be bad in different ways than a Ford, but tearing up the Earth to produce an easier means of transport isn't eco-friendly.
American mining company Molycorp has bought up a 90.023 share in Estonia's rare earth metals producer AS Silmet, taking control of one of very few sources of the much-sought materials outside China.
http://news.err.ee/economy/c12a9355-2b41-46d3-b00e-875806144...
Relevant, I hope.
A few Canadian companies hold the rights to many of the resources in the USA.
For example there are some nice lithium sources in the USA but the Canadian companies will not mine them until there is a certain profitability level.
Well, I'm sure the military doesn't want to redesign everything that already uses them - we're broke enough as it is...