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This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes and push it to your phone. I do this frequently and it took me less than ten seconds to find instructions for how to do so via google.

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> It is fairly trivial to <x> in iTunes

I’m not sure that statement is ever true for any value of <x>, as any task in iTunes is non trivial given what a painful experience using iTunes is.

That said, I can confirm the rest of the point, having made custom ringtones and pushed them to my iPhone on a few (painful) occasions.

Compared to just opening 'Ringtone' in settings and just choosing any file I want, I would hardly describe having to Google for 10 seconds and then having to go to iTunes (on a different device?) to push a ringtone, as trivial or convenient.

iTunes is now name Music on macOS, btw.

Since using iTunes/Music for this is apparently more than some are willing to put up with I did a bit more research and on a Mac it is even easier than what I suggested at first.

Step 1: create an aac-encoded file with the .m4r extension to its name

Step 2: connect phone to Mac and drag and drop .m4r file on to iPhone on desktop

Step 3: there is no step 3

For those who want to do this without needing a Mac or PC there are apps that will do the job as well.

Just downloading the song and selecting it in a list makes it feels like a chore on an Android unlike a multi platform/app adventure/experience with an iPhone.

But Finder now has the syncing component for the iPhone, the Music app is only for playback and library management.

Oh, OK.

I know macOS Store subscription management is, hilariously enough, still just in Music app. (I wanted to cancel MS Office subscription - for Mac! not for iPhone! - and I needed to do that in Music app.)

> This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes

It never occurred to me that iTunes should be required for anything, seeing as I haven’t used that piece of software for 10+ years. I suspect that applies to most iPhone owners these days as well.

As such this is trivial in the same way finding the news about the interstellar highway in “Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy” is trivial. That is, not at all.

And I have such traumatic memories about iTunes with it randomly wiping my iPhone several times a month 10 years back, there’s no fucking way I’m ever going to use that software again.

This needs to be solvable on the iPhone itself.

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