United Airlines plans to resume service on more than 25 international routes
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Here's an NYT article saying the same: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/Ireland-amer...
In an infectious disease situation, your following the rules is meaningless when many other US citizens seem to think the rules simply don’t apply to them.
The average American vacation lasts for 17 days[1]. A 14 day quarantine would absolutely ruin that. When faced with the complete revision of your plans and the high sunk cost of international travel, human nature is going to take over: "I stayed inside for a day and I feel fine, so..."
If there's one thing Covid-19 has demonstrated, asking people to do the right thing fails in aggregate. If a country doesn't want tourists breaking quarantine, they're going to need to mandate it.
[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2019/08/28/what-does-a...
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¹ Source: Jonas Nart COVID19 Tableau https://public.tableau.com/profile/jonas.nart#!/vizhome/COVI...
Edit: I had to look this up because it sounded strange Germany would go against the EU travel recommendations and openly allow American travellers. They do not: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/einreiseundaufenthalt/cor...
Having to stay in closed quarters, breathing the same air, going to the same toilets, wearing the same mask, with a good portion or people not caring much for all the extra measures and who will probably find ways to defy the order to wear masks properly, well, that doesn't seem a particularly way to fly.
A test within 3 days before departure would at least give a chance to temporarily prevent someone from infecting others.
Some countries already require the test before entering their borders but as a airline, I would expect that to be enforced before departure, for all flights.
What if test results are late? Should you delay and take the first flight after getting the results? Now the test was taken 4 days or more before the new flight. Should You take another test?
Airlines or countries that do not want to welcome travelers without a recent, <72h PCR test should set up the necessary infrastructure in the city of the departure airport.
If you need a recent test result before entering an airport, you'll have airlines screaming to get some of that test infrastructure in place yesterday.
make it at the arrival airport, if the traveler doesn't have a valid recent test, he can take it again at the arrival airport + mandatory quarantine (and by that i mean in a nearby facility escorted by police). If you want to travel, it should be your responsibility to not infect everyone else...
Edit: Just wanted to add that some airlines have already mandated testing before boarding, such as Emirates and I'm sure others.
as such, visitors should: 1. take a test when they land 2. quarantine 3. take another test
that's how some countries have approached this "test at the airport" strategy.
basically provide negative results over a set period of quarantine, as i read it.
COVID tests on day 3 and day 12.
Reports have indicated that a fair number of people appear symptom free, but then test positive on day 3.
Of the people that test negative on day 3, some then later test positive on day 12. I'd imagine this percentage would be even higher if they did the first test on day 1
Goes to show that if we just did a single test we'd be allowing enough COVID positive people through the gates to re-ignite the pandemic. You need multiple tests over a time period
PCR the cabin air and the waste stream.
Swab everyone and group test them. Then if there's a positive you hold everyone and retest them individually.
Better to just not put anyone on the aircraft at all, I think. Especially since in-flight refueling of airliners isn't actually a thing that can happen.
And, yes, I agree. There are very few reasons anyone should be flying right now, mostly limited to "I need to be in place X or I will die."
(American here currently in South-East Asia since 2018). As you all know, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan and others have some of the lowest rates of Covid in the world.
No one complains about the masks. No one makes a political issue out of it. It's simple -- you can't go into the majority of stores, shopping centers, offices or buildings in any of the cities in these countries.
No Karens. No viral videos about people not wanting to wear (or wanting to wear) masks. And the resurgence of Covid-19 is enough to cause the governments to be super-cautious again.
People wear them. Cute kids wear them. Old and young people. And we are safe. Very few if any infections or deaths over the last 3 months.
Because of the control of the spread, people are more relaxed outdoors and mask use outdoors is around 65% at this point just from looking around.
No Covid-19. Enough. About. The. Masks. Already. Wear one. Protect your fellow humans.
"Healthy people in the community are not currently required to wear a face mask for protection from COVID-19 in New Zealand. In our current environment, the potential benefits of requiring masks to be worn by all healthy people in the community are not felt to outweigh the potential risks."
When it's everywhere, like in the US, we don't have that option. Masks are one of few mitigations available to us.
The US can’t even get past square one.
Don’t believe the hype.
The majority of people Just go along with whatever. Most people are receptive to masks. There’s a tiny vocal minority that are against them.