People constantly complained US corps extracted too much profit, and get too much recession from the government.
The government recession part is less noticeable, because Chinese people are not informed anyway.
Like TESLA's shanghai factories. It's common that people complained "I can be as successful as Elon, if I got the same support from the government"...
I'm not American. I don't hang around in the same circles as you.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Trap-Americas-economic-again...
It seems to me to be saying the US unfairly gained.
One might hope HN would provide a non-siloed venue including (one would guess, self-selecting for relatively pro-western) chinese geeks, but as far as I've seen, those who openly identify as such are discouraged.
From an American perspective, the stuff said there is absolutely bizarre and contradictory to virtually every talking point you'll hear from everybody else, but it aligns very closely with what people I know who live in China/still have strong ties to China say. Expect lots of cherry picked data and extreme reaching just to prove a point. Though to be frank, that's politics everywhere.
If you're frequently caught up in American/European politics, a few minutes of reading discussions there might frustrate you, but it'll also make you think because the viewpoints are so contrary to what most Westerners regard as the norm.
And based off what I see on the actual Chinese net in Chinese, /r/sino stays completely in line with the common consensus.
(And I leave it to the argies and the austrians to fight over who makes the best milanesa/schnitzel. But it does sound like it may be what I was looking for, in terms of non-hanzi-expressed general opinions which, however outlandish they may sound on HN, would be unremarkable on 新浪微博.)
Try scrolling through weibo for an active discussion saying "Maybe Taiwan can be its own country" or "Maybe China's policy of banning all foreign discussion platforms isn't good." You might have a one off comment saying something like that, but the moment multiple people talk about it, it is guaranteed to be deleted in the best case. If the discussion gets too big, worse things will happen. Oftentimes there'll be a discussion about something offending China by simply existing, and the comments are just increasingly outlandish suggestions of how everyone needs to retaliate.
/r/sino is just a mirror of the Chinese internet experience, in English. It's like reading comments on a mainstream TV news site, but anyone who dares call out the content as BS gets their comments instantly wiped.
The Chinese not under the CCP dictatorship in places like Taiwan, Singapore or the US mostly seem hard working democratic and easy going.
But maybe by reading Chinese sources, and seeing how different they are, will make us think more critically, and make us more immune to the propaganda we are fed at home.
All of these lean more towards pro-China, but they're nowhere near as crazy and blindly pro-China as the /r/sino guys, and they analyze situations pretty well. All of these are open for debate, whereas on /r/sino you get banned if you're not showing absolutely loyalty (speaking from experience).
Jerry has an excellent blog too. The funny thing is, he never intended to talk about politics, but all the bad news on China since COVID-19 frustrated him so much that he began writing. https://medium.com/@jerry_grey2002
If you wanna discuss things, feel free to seek me out.