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So pie in the sky theorizing is better than looking at the data where this has failed/is failing. "not real UBI" is now "not real socialism".

even the Stockton experiment has been propped up by private money. Its essentially a charity at this point.

Furthermore, the entire benefit of UBI "is so that people don't have to work and get sick". It is incentivizing not working.

It is incentivizing the dependency on the state.