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This phone is an embarrassment. Petty mismanagement https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zlatan-T... , subpar products, and breakdowns like this are nice, but you know what's better? Getting a working phone then getting the behind the scenes look rather than 2 unfinished products. It has none of the charm of the n900, at least pinephone is much cheaper, although I don't see a point to a Linux phone when they're mainlining a bunch of snapdragons like the one in the s9, with full network support. Once postmarketOS succeeds there's little reason to get these Linux phone as devices, and the main reason was good support before postmarketOS ported Linux but the hardware is pretty bad. Poor hardware and poor software for a hefty price, a phone that when sold wasn't even functional and is still rough around the edges.

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You’re not wrong that the project has had issues and unforced errors. I’ve felt similar disappointment at the slow progress, misleading statements, and product limitations.

But they’re one of precious few companies with a fighting chance of bringing open software to mobile. For that reason alone, they’re still on the side of the angels in my opinion.

So root for the Pinephone and PostmarketOS, and continue to hold Purism accountable. But if Purism and the Librem have an outside shot at positively contributing to the mobile landscape if given the chance, then entirely-valid criticisms of the company and product should be tempered with that chance in mind.

I would like to think that pine and purism had some effect on the mainlining, but project treble for Google had been thought of separately. I won't buy their hardware at this rate, but I hope they'll have a good mark on the Linux phone.

They're doing something incredibly hard and I'll cut some slack to turn the idea into a usable product.

Also their desktop OS is pretty sweet. If they converge the two (texts, clipboard, calls), it will be worth the bumps in the road.

I will pick one up when 14nm is introduced. It's a damned server in your pocket.

You can have it converged with Android and KDE connect already. These problems are absent from pine, so it's not the fact it's a Linux device it's incompetence that causes these issues.

If you want a Linux phone you can check the port status of postmarketOS or just get something like this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meizu_PRO_5_Ubuntu_Edition

None of the behind the scenes crap, no constant delays and no drama, with way better hardware for a cheaper price. If you want a server in your pocket the pine works for that but so does a cheap Android phone too.

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