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This is cool. I wonder if anyone has compiled the php interpreter via emscripten?

Another option might be compiling HPHPc, which I dockerized a few years back: https://github.com/allanlw/hphpc-docker

PHP -> WASM, can run anywhere WebAssembly runs: which is all modern browsers, embeddable into any language with a WASM runtime for it, or usable with a standalone WASM runtime:

https://wapm.io/package/php

Can you realistically compile an interpreted language into WASM without embedding an interpreter? If I remember right, PHP has “eval”, so how would WASM code deal with such a statement (that could evaluate any possible code) without embedding a PHP interpreter?

The comment you replied to linked to a WebAssembly build of the PHP interpreter.

But to answer your question, there's no fundamental difference between interpreted and compiled languages. If the program you want to compile doesn't use `eval`, and you can statically determine all the files it would include, why couldn't you compile it without including an interpreter?

There is a fundamental difference between dynamically typed and statically typed languages though. And if you want to AOT compile a dynamically typed language, then you're going to need to include code that looks awfully like an interpreter in the final binary.

Dynamic typing is really just passing around variables using an enumerated type. You don't need anything resembling an interpreter to do this and it's how the C extension APIs for many dynamic languages like Ruby and Lua work.

I think people in this thread are using 'dynamic typing' more as a shortcut to also mean features like eval, which does require a full interpreter or compiler.

This might be right, but it’s also true that most Common Lisp program can be compiled to machine code that’s very similar to what a C compiler would produce, except for the occasional runtime type check.

It depends what an interpreter means to you. You might need to use hash table lookups of variables and do switch cases on types in trickier cases where the compiler can't figure out what's going on, but you can leave out the main VM/interpreter part.

Can PHP running in WASM access the DOM? I know there’s a .NET project that does something similar

PHP in Browser has done this: https://oraoto.github.io/pib/.

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