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Feds Vowed to Quell Unrest in Portland. Local Leaders Are Telling Them to Leave

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32 pointslegerdemain11 comments

How long before someone who carries thinks (rightfully) that they are being kidnapped, and opens fire? What happens afterward?

I was thinking the same thing watching these videos of them jumping out of minivans. It looks like kidnapping.

I worry for the person who will make this mistake because the officers will return fire and leave another person murdered in the street.

They're putting their own officers lives in danger by doing this as well. This isn't war, casualties shouldn't be an acceptable side effect to public protests in the US

Probably not wise to fire at federal officers

That’s the problem - they aren’t identifying themselves as federal officers, they aren’t displaying legally require identification.

So it is reasonable to defend yourself.

But then police who murdered breonna Taylor claimed (in a stand your ground state) that her boyfriend committed a crime when he shot back at a group of i identified people that burst into their house and shot his girlfriend.

So yeah it would be a bloodbath. A bloodbath caused by the federal government choosing to kidnap and murder people.

very interesting, so they don't have any patches or any identifying information on them?

Correct, and they didn’t say where they were going or what they were charged with.

At least one person had their hat pulled down so they couldn’t see anything.

He only found out he had been to the local court house after he had been dumped in a random part of the city

Despite document (and recording) his “arrest” law enforcement said there was no record of his being picked up at all.

There have been multiple articles covering this.

They do, you can see them on closer videos taken.

From the opb report it sounds like they were essentially just little badges that say "police".

There is no federal "police" department. There's a number of federal agencies that do "law" enforcement and similar, but none of them are police. US Police departments are a part of incorporated cities. Outside of such cities, you get sheriffs. Between states you get the FBI, Treasury, Marshalls, etc.

These people were being taken to a federal courthouse, implying that they were federal agents, the only groups in Portland at the moment are ICE and the US Marshall service. The former has a fairly terrible human and constitutional rights record so I would guess it was probably them, but who knows - we know that they've had people "arrested" but have no record of the arrest. Which means it was an abduction by the federal gov with the intent to terrorise and escalate the conflict.

> From the opb report it sounds like they were essentially just little badges that say "police".

Which means that the OPB report is being intentionally misleading. Which is unsurprising for much of the media covering the events.

This doesn't come off as an honest criticism, as even having the specific agency insignia would just be blown off.

> a group of i identified people

I'm assuming this is a typo, and you meant "a group of unidentified people"

Meanwhile when right wing terrorists took over federal property in the same state nothing happened to them and they’re now threatening neighboring states, including invading state government buildings in Idaho.

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