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I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media.

Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

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>Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison

Yes please make a movie about your next it projekt ;)

I even hate repair-videos on youtube, it's slow and lame, the fix-it manuals are 1000s times better (since i know what a torx is and that most screws open counter-clock-wise)

I just might.

Seriously.

Social media for techies - what will that look like in ten years? Like HN? Or more like TikTok ...

VR headset and enriched reality....with a sexy manga girl in the right upper corner.

To give you guys a glimpse of the future - here is #coding and #startup on TikTok:

https://www.tiktok.com/tag/coding

https://www.tiktok.com/tag/startup

To give you a glimpse of reality:

https://ayende.com/blog/Images/Windows-Live-Writer/Pair-Prog...

EDIT: Wow i clicked on #Coding and it is like i taught about it...pure waste of time with Rainbowhairs and talking needle slim guy's with more grease on top than the hole movie 'Grease'

I don't know what you are seeing - TikTok gives you localised contents straight away even when browsing their website.

If you play around with it for a bit, the algorithm will adapt to your taste.

No thanks...looks terribly bad.

Not having images on HN is occasionally annoying, but mostly it's a feature not a bug.

I have a suspicion that HN will outlast TikTok, but it'll take a decade to find out.

> I even hate repair-videos on youtube, it's slow and lame,

Here are some TikTok tutorials on light painting [0]. I'm not saying that I like them, or that they are good, but they are incredibly pacey compared with the YouTube equivalents

[0] https://www.tiktok.com/tag/lightpainting

Those are fascinating, and give me a glimpse into a world I didn't even know I found interesting.

One major difference (that some may care about less than I do) is that the TikTok format is great for seeing a variety of content, but does little to help me create. Admittedly, YouTube is filled with lots of filler information (to please their own algorithms) but I could probably figure out what cameras/lights to use, software settings, how to edit, etc... The best TikTok can do is show me what others are capable of.

TikTok comes with a massive apparatus for creating videos.

These tutorials are about how to set up a still a light painting using a DSLR or mirrorless camera in a long exposure mode. TikTok is just being used to record the movement of the light during the long exposure, not to explain the settings (ISO, shutter speed, aperture, etc) of the still camera that takes the final shot.

If there's something that I really really like YouTube for, it would be the videos showing you how to fix or build things. Good woodworking, metalworking, electronics repair videos are hard to find, but I remember seeing a few that were much better than a manual. The manual typically shows one view of a project or workpiece, but good videos show multiple views, close ups, pictures of different configurations I might expect.

You do typically have to wade through a lot of crappy "Hey Guys Like and Subscribe!" garbage with 30 second title sequences to find the good ones though.

I like stuff like Townsends (cooking and build stuff in the old days) but repair stuff big NO for me, but learn howto solder big YES. It really depends.

In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

Yeah.

You are right.

There are big diffferences.

For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

>For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

Choke not joke...big difference

If that was a joke you might be overestimating your skills :P

Hey - I got 3 points for my last comment ...

He must be delusional. Tiktok is for dancing videos as far as I can tell. The parent comment and down are taking stances that I would never expect on HN. Something is off, there is nothing ‘refreshing’ about tiktok.

He has a point though, HN has a serious lack of dancing videos.

To be fair nerdcore doesn't attract chorus lines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4

Closest I can get to HN ⋂ dancing is 1:34-1:48 in Virus' "You should ask" (where the video is about the difficulty of source attribution on a LAN, let alone an entire internet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVdoQ2fmIYs

I think you're underestimating how user-specific the feed is. I recently uninstalled it, but I was getting 5% dancing videos at best (worst?). The vast majority of my feed was animal videos, comedy skits, video games, and anime clips.

I don't agree with the parent comment's characterization, but I see sites like HN and Reddit described as "social media" all the time.

For those us whose Internet citizenship pre-dates Friendster and MySpace, the term "social media" has a particular meaning.

But for many younger "social media natives", the term basically just means "any website or app where you can make posts or comments".

Interesting observation. I grew up with shitty (but fun!) phpBB forums and the fancier vBulletin, but wouldn't categorize them as 'social media'. The first of those were probably cu2, MySpace, and eventually Facebook/Twitter/etc.

When I think about it, it seems like a somewhat arbitrary distinction to make. I suppose the main difference is that the forums were self-hosted and I could have different identities for each one. And while I generally reused the same username, the fact that it wasn't just a matter of 'clicking on my profile' to see all my activity was something I really liked.

Maybe to me the term "social media" has come to mean "social media /companies/"? That doesn't quite satisfy, but it really does feel like the primary difference is that on these forums I knew that they were generally not run for profit, and the 'gods' were just individuals who volunteered their time to host or moderate. It felt safer, and more personal.

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