The Winnebago Heli-Home Was a Real Flying RV
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"This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts, and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to."
Harry Reasoner
February 16, 1971
* Helicopters do autorotate which is a glide, sort of, at least with sufficient translational lift and rotor speed.
I know that many of them practiced autorotation nearly every time they left a mountain peak to descend back down to the glacier floor.
I also once got to fly a 400+ mile trip over rugged wilderness and the pilot was always thinking about the next possible emergency landing spot. The flight altitude was often adjusted for this as well if over terrain where options would be limited (such as water). Well maintained helicopters - nothing wrong with them - just always being aware of your options when in the middle of nowhere.
There's such a thing as weekend airplane pilots, but no such thing as weekend helicopter pilots. Developing the skills to fly a helicopter takes a very serious time investment. (And that's before you have a family of vacationers shoving stuff willy-nilly into the helicopter!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ultralight_helicopters
Accident rates are nothing to be happy about though, flying a helicopter is a lot harder than flying a light plane and flying into an obstacle or having something fail resulting in a crash are all too common. Helicopters are quite delicate compared to planes as well and even though they can usually auto-rotate that's better described as a controlled crash than an emergency landing.
Personally I'd never ever want to be in one of these but compared to a wingsuit they're probably safer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_H-19_Chickasaw#Design
RV that park at the Walmart a ways down the road from me can't even manage to find the right place to dump... I can imagine helicopter RVs being pretty terrible.
Exactly. I've toyed with the idea of living on a plane or a boat, and the boat is obviously practical and (relatively) cheap, while the plane (or heli, in this case) is enormously hobbled by the mass constraint.
You can find an RV for the road to live in, you can find a boat to live on, but there's no solution at all really in the aviation space unless you go quite big and thus super expensive [1].
Quite some people live on a land or water vehicle, but I don't think anyone realistically lives on an aircraft for an extended time, do they? The 21st century just doesn't deliver... ;-)
[1] The price of of boats and planes tends to grow super cubically with length (exponent of maybe 3.5 or so), so twice as long will be 10x expensive (very rough rule of thumb, obviously).
It massively reduces total life costs, seeing as you're not paying rent. Living on boats is very popular in London for this reason.
(though many of the available moorings will be in expensive areas where mortgages certainly would be much higher than mine)
My fees for the mooring was only a few hundred dollars a year,
Live aboard tenants are generally only permitted in serviced marinas, and these get very expensive.
I was able to live on my vessel as I was in a small bay off The Georges river which flows into Botany Bay, and not Sydney harbour, where the rules are strictly enforced by authorities.
The water police on the river did not care about live aboards, and the local councils are only responsible for land until the high tide mark, so they didn't care either.
I once got a letter from some sort of port authority stating that living aboard vessels is not permitted, but it was not an actual enforcement notice.
The fact that you are (of course) permitted to visit or use your vessel at any time makes it either difficult, or costly, to prosecute I guess.
I did once ask my accountant if I could get away with using a boat as my office and claiming back against tax. He, cough somewhat poo-pooed the idea.
Apparently the taxman would require proof that I was only using the boat strictly as an office and should in no way enjoy the experience. Spoil sports.
That said if you live as vagabond and don't have primary residence, wonder if you can get away from paying taxes at all. After all you are not using any countries resources.
The core problem is that the total cost of ownership for a boat is a small fraction of its purchase price. Also, the incremental cost of owning one even when not using it is relatively high.
Think of cars. Let's say you get a little extra cash and you feel like having something fun to drive. You've got some extra space on your driveway. You get, I don't know, a used sports car or a camper van or something. Once you've gotten it, most of the expenditure is done. The insurance is cheap since it's not a daily drive. You've got space for it already.
In other words, if you can afford to buy a car, you can probably afford to own a car.
Any boat larger than a fishing boat that you can trailer yourself and store in your yard is the polar opposite of that.
Boats are actually pretty cheap to buy. There is a huge used market for boats driving prices down. There are many many people looking to not own a boat (which should probably be causing alarm bells to ring in your head). You can often find sailboats for free.
The reason is that the cost to own them is quite high. If you keep the boat in the water, you're paying rent at a marina slip. That's expensive in desireable areas. Populated coastal areas are obviously almost always desirable areas. Also, the water and its contents are constantly doing a number on the boat. Barnacles grow on it. The salt corrodes any exposed metal. Sunlight and UV light break down anything plastic. Every day of the boat's life is burning money regardless of whether or not you use the boat.
You can store it out of the water, and that helps. But that makes it even harder to take the boat out, so maybe you're not burning as much money every month, but you're also using it even less.
This does not mean that boating sucks or is unaffordable. It just means you need to have the right mindset for it. Don't think of a boat as a toy. And object that you can buy and put away when not in use. Think of it more like a pet, like a horse.
If you're rich, you can be a horse owner if you want and treat it like a toy. Throw many at it, pay stablehands to take care of the horse when you aren't around, and don't care about the money you're burning even when you aren't riding.
If you're not rich, you can also be a happy horse owner. But it has to be your thing. It will be a major part of your life, and occupy a very large slice of your free time. You'll move to the country to make it more affordable. You'll spend time every day taking care of your horse and enjoy the satisfaction of doing the work yourself. You may not have much time for other pursuits, but it will be your horse through and through.
I look at boats the same way. You be happy using it a few times a year if you're rich and don't mind throwing money at it. Or you can make it your thing and use it so frequently that the monthly expenses are amortized across a large volume of joyful use. But what you can't do is be a happy casual boat user if you aren't wealthy.
Yep, "a hole in the water you throw money into" is the definition I heard ;-)
Simpler boats are definitely cheaper to maintain. Also try avoiding any sort of "projects" as they are always 10x longer and more expensive to do.
I assume the situation with airplanes is quite similar (I wonder what’s worse, actually).
A NYC penthouse apartment may have similarly high maintenance fees, and cost as much as the 737. https://www.galeriemagazine.com/9-most-expensive-penthouses-...
It's an interesting thought. I'd like to believe there's an old bush pilot living out of his Cessna 208 in Australia or something. Now that van life is taking off among the rich, I don't see why this isn't possible.
Not unless they are Robur the Conqueror :)
I think one of the big differences between an aircraft and an RV or boat is that an RV and boat don't burn insane amounts of fuel every time you want to move around.
I do remember seeing a few airplanes converted into stationary homes over the years in various videos and stuff though.
https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/helicopters/special-...
Another fun example, a helicopter rescue from a 45 degree angled mountainside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9PISHcq4Y
Idunno, still sounds like living the dream to me.
I do wonder though, what the death/injury rates would be in this sector of general aviation, it seems extremely fraught.
https://medium.com/s/story/the-long-way-round-the-plane-that...
Reminds me of when I did a pleasure flight with a US missionary in a Cessna 150 in Nicaragua, and when I wandered into Managua airport afterwards I was hauled in by police and questioned, apparently thought to be a drug smuggler or so, until the good missionary showed up again (having parked the plane) and cleared everything up. (Not nearly as glamorous and dramatic as the attack on that Catalina Landaeaire of the coast of Saudi Arabia, though.)
The Venn diagram of people who can justify each option to their spouse is not a circle though. They're probably almost doubling the number of potential customers by offering it both ways.
Those same people don't even spend $800k on their house.
There is a big market of people hiring private jets.
Hypercars didn't exist in 1977 and wealth inequality wasn't what it is today. Maybe Winnebago were just ahead of their time with this product?
> All in all, the company would go on to sell only 8 Heli-Homes to customers, none of which survive today.
This, on the other hand, is regrettable from a curiosity perspective...
One big difference between the old money and new money neighbourhoods in a former city of mine is that the latter was the only one which allowed helicopter landings.
https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1400xauto/publi...
Instead, beginning in 1975 [Winnebago] worked with a company called Orlando Helicopter Airways to acquire a fleet of ex-military Siksorky S-55 transport helicopters (also known as the H-19) and convert these surplus machines into something a little more homey.
The look of this helicopter reminds me of the outwardly similar Sikorski S-58 that was used in the TV series "Riptide". I saw a few episodes of that as a child and I guess I'll never be able to forget that particular association.
I was hoping with the part 23 rewrite we might get cheaper new aircraft, but that hasn't happened.
“I want a boat helicopter... er.. house!”
(From Spaceballs the movie)