14 Days ago, they went down [0]. And today it's happening again. Twice in less than a month.
Another reminder to self host via solutions like GitLab or Gitea. [1]
Another reminder to self host via solutions like GitLab or Gitea. [1]
Another one I remember was when some new configuration key was needed and prevented one of the components from starting (took ~2 hours to find what it was).
It doesn't happen often, don't worry that much though, gitlab omnibus works well, but is hard to investigate/fix because it's huge and not a tech stack we do understand well since we mostly use gitlab-ctl commands, so when something goes wrong it's hard
A server is more likely to go belly-up by accident than the presumably redundant GitHub infrastructure, but its life is much less interesting.
"This is not good, we have to do this ourselves". And in the end it costs way more, and you end up with an inferiour solution because it's not your core business, and nobody really has any time to work on it.
Very sad really.
The first thing to ask is exactly what you asked here. I can't upvote this enough.
But hey, with the number of outages GitHub has recently that break even point is coming closer and closer.
These are all the reasons why I don't want to self-host my own git. I can live with it being down every now and then. And when it is down, I don't want it to be my job to fix it. I've got more important stuff to worry about.
I wound't say people become more afraid, they just don't see the reason to bother. I'd choose GitHub or Gitlab for small teams at any time. I'd probably even be fine with the free versions.
I see little to no reason for self-hosting in a small team. I cannot imagine a performant server, bandwith and the employee it takes to maintain it to be cheaper than the 10€/month/user for a hosted solution.
Many small companies already have VMs running other services.
Gitlab and gitea don't have that high performance requirements, especially when you consider how absurdly cheap high-core-count CPUs, RAM and NVMe SSDs are these days… and that's assuming you don't just chuck it into your existing cloud infrastructure and call it a day.
But even self-hosted redundant gitlab setups for several hundred users can be done with cheap commodity servers (or dedicated hosting providers like Hetzner) for <5€/user/month, and maintenance is on the order of 1-2 hours per month.
Is it free to self host like GitLab or Gitea? If not, what does it offer that you can't get from those?
Yes it is, and GitLab and Gitea both offer that, which brings us back to the question I asked, what does GitHub Enterprise offer that you can't get from GitLab and Gitea?
> On-premise or own-cloud hosting is quite import for some customers.
Yes... it is quite important- That's why people use things like Gitlab or Gitea....
But back to the original question, what does Github Enterprise offer that you can't get from Gitlab or Gitea?
Even for bigger companies that need more uptime they can at least give a shout out to everyone that it will be unavailable from X to Y, it doesn't just go down randomly with no notice whenever github decides to push a release.
In the last few months we had a server that physically crashed and had to be replaced, we had a bad kernel that paniced randomly and a gitlab upgrade that failed in the middle.
Is you team equiped and ready to handle these? If not, don't self-host anything critical to your company, or your costs, downtimes and losses will be much much higher.
I have a self-hosted gitlab instance and it has much higher uptime than github in the last year. At some point a weekly downtime is going to trump any potential random outages.
The major difference might be your ability to affect those outages (positive or negative) because humans are the primary cause of outages, and you can restore service to a gimped passable state if its your own thing.
Our self-hosted build and artifact servers have not gone down without planning in many years. Planned outages are brief, for a small team it's not inconvenient to announce a 10 minute outage for an upgrade.
But why would anybody ever do that?
The self hosted version of BitBucket comes in at a pretty reasonable price. I don't know that for sure (and I can't check thanks to GH being down) but I'd imagine the self-hosted versions for GitHub Enterprise are quite a bit more expensive than Bitbucket or Gitlab.
Disclaimer: I passionately hate Atlassian products, but I don't feel like using Stash/Bitbucket is a bad choice in any way.