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I can't exactly put my reasoning to words, but it's really nice to see a map of the U.S. include the territories as well as the states.

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It's interesting the only case the territories have been involved with was a singular one against Iowa of all states, which Puerto Rico won. It's a bit of a spicy one too, involving extradition and civil war law.

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/111940/puerto-rico-v-b...

Of course, clicking on DC gives "United States" rather than the District of Columbia.

It's inclusivity and correctness, both admirable qualities.

U.S. is an abreviation for United States. I'd say it makes more sense not to have territories than it does to include them in a list of states.

USA is an abbreviation for United States of America, and frankly, many of the territories aren't even in the Americas so, it makes more sense not to have them in the first place.

Kidding, because what you name something doesn't really matter nearly as much as what it actually is :P

I agree! That's my point :-). Why, in a nation that was founded on freedom and then states' rights, have a territory that cannot vote nationally or participate fully with the nation?

Or how can a nation created on the principle of self-determination declare itself indivisible?

That's from the pledge of allegiance, which was started by a socialist, Francis Bellamy. The PoA does not talk about self-determination in any way whatsoever and is not a foundational document or principle of the USA.

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