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In order of most comments to least:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17874320

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16995389

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17260911

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8561080

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6236478

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17816185

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13955261

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18800421

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15880092

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19095884

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17433908

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9204922

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17162935

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17074058

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12607328

Don't miss the lively contributions of https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=davidgraeber. Hopefully we'll get him again!

Do you have a list of these at the ready?

Prob knows how to use the search feature.

or sql

If you click on past, just below the submissions title on this page, it will bring up all past submissions with the same title.

It's a recurrent theme here on HN. I've also read more and more news and stories about Bullshit jobs.

I really hope he'll stop tolerating that crazy person or waiting for something sufficiently outrageous to happen. Assuming nothing changed since that 2018 comment [1], nothing will change for at least a few more years.

Suing for libel and making a formal complaint with Berkeley would be public service [2] at this point.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17164707

[2]: not sure "public" is the correct word here, sorry

that last discussion was interesting... author and critic (troll?) going back and forth. i missed it the first time around because the idea of bullshit jobs is mostly bullshit[0], an egotistical effort to cheaply denigrate others. as such, the discussions around them tend to be shallow and tedious.

[0] https://ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/bullshi...

Given that Graeber himself very clearly says "a bullshit job is defined as one which the person doing the job believes doesn't have to, or shouldn't, exist", your assertion that the idea of bullshit jobs is "an egotistical effort to cheaply denigrate others" doesn't seem to make much sense.

it's a critique on the discussions, not necessarily the book/author.

i'm saying i expect more than some shallow dismissal of flipping burgers being so obviously bullshit to people who bang on keyboards, which is a dismayingly large proportion of most of these discussions, as well as the shallow solution to UBI all the things to fix it.

if it's not obvious what the value of a job is, whether or not it could be solved another way, then you're losing your compassion and empathy for other human beings, their lives, and their livelihoods.

You don't seem to understand the premise. Flipping burgers is manifestly not bullshit compared to filing TPS reports. People eat burgers.

That's not to say that there's no human value to a TPS report, somewhere down the line, but we're sufficiently divorced from it that it's impossible to tell.

not misunderstanding, that's basically my point as well, but that's not how these discussions typically unfurl, which is why an exhortation to better discussion is even needed.

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