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Hong Kong security law: Life sentences for breaking China-imposed law

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This is terrible news when we're also hearing ideas like 'China is becoming the next global superpower to replace USA'. I have no words. I don't feel like my obfs4 bridge can do much either, but I'll keep it running.

For all it’s faults, and let’s be honest it has a fair few, the USA is still massively better than China. Even with trump in charge.

The Chinese government tells us it is supported by 99.9 % of its citizens, but it acts like it is scared to death the population is on the verge of revolting.

I would bet Chinese people are very patriotic. They stand for China and right now the CCP is equivalent to China.

the CCP's fear is that daylight would appear between the concept of the CCP and the concept of China in people's mind. I feel that their suspicion of fragility is warranted.

However, Chinese people, like most, would want to execute that themselves and not have foreign hands meddling in their internal affairs (there the gov/CCP is right).

This is not how China persuades Taiwan to join the mainland...

This is how Taiwan wins.

Long term their leadership will prevail if the communists keep trying to clamp down.

The green party has more support than the mainland splinter KMT which historically sees the Chinese mainland as its motherland and manifest destiny.

It seems the greens have the upper hand now. Still, that doesn't mean those missiles across the straight now are there for show.

As much as it could end up like the sanctions on NK, it could also end up like the sanctions on Russia for Crimea. All bluster and no action, given their importance.

Maximum penalty is actually death penalty, not just life sentences:

[Article 57] […] execution of penalties and other litigation procedures shall be governed by the relevant laws of the Criminal Procedure Law of the People’s Republic of China

https://transitjam.com/2020/06/30/national-security-law-engl... (unofficial English translation, since no official English translation was provided)

I guess it's not that surprising that indefinite detention is on the menu given that the CCP also runs concentration camps, and the rule of law isn't really a thing on the mainland. The fact that they're bothering to advertise it means they are making a threat.

I feel desperately sad and worried for the people of Hong Kong, and I’m hoping we do the right thing by its citizens and give them an escape path to the west. Having seen what happens to the Uighurs, the concentration camps, torture, forced sterilisation, you understand why the people of Hong Kong are so fearful and so ready to fight back.

Uighurs weren't just randomly targeted, separatists carried out dozens, if not more, heinous terrorist acts that killed and injured thousands of innocent people. HK citizens generally don't have a history of such activities.

Two countries, one system.

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