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I've never seen an app that required a FB or Google login. It was always possible to use email+password.

Lucky you! I've run into lot of these apps offering only FB/Google sign in. Or offering mobile number only login. For e.g. I like playing scrabble and Scrabble Go only support FB login so I'm playing only as Guest user for months now.

Mobile number login is even worse! Why do I need to share my mobile number for something where you don't need to have it!

I think a lot of services use mobile number login as a way of bot-limiting; harder to create lots of phony email addresses than phone numbers. But it's still a pain in the butt :(

> harder to create lots of phony email addresses than phone numbers

I think you got this the wrong way around.

Mobile number login is common for apps from China as large number of Internet user there only have a mobile phone, no desktop and no email. Its the only way to verify account.

Tinder’s.

Their whole point was that you could be confident the people were real because they were tied to a real Facebook account.

https://tailscale.com/ requires it, as do many other apps that explicitly "don't want to become identity providers and would rather offload that burden to someone else".

Tailscale supports other SSO providers, too. https://tailscale.com/kb/1013/sso-providers

Yup, FWIW I think their selection is great, I was just using them as an example of a company that chose not to provide any in-house email+password option.

For a time I believe Spotify required a FB login. I recall not using it early on because I couldn’t create an account without connecting it to FB.

Pokemon Go's account own doesn't work. Even if you manage to create that account, it won't log you in. With Google account it works as expected. I tried to create two Pokemon Go accounts, gave up and created a Pokemon Go only Google account for child's playing. It has worked a few years.

When did you have this issue? My account is tied to my Google account because on launch the Go servers were completely inundated and the account creation was just constantly failing but using a Google account allowed you to skip that step and start playing.

This was the first month of Pokemon Go years ago. I haven't heard of it being an issue lately but I also haven't needed to create an account in a very long time.

I think the first time was around the spring 2017. I could create an account, use the credentials to log in, but trying on several days the game never started. There was some "please wait" kind of screen and waiting for hours didn't help. With a Google account things worked right away.

And a bit over a year the same thing happened. New Pokemon Go account -> log in -> no game. With Google account has been working since.

So, my experience is two tries in the span of two years it did not work.

Pokemon Trainer Club accounts (what you thing of as "Pokémon Go accounts", even though they're used for other Pokémon services) in the past were more buggy than Google accounts, but for at least the past two years I have had no more trouble with my account than my friends who have Google accounts. Additionally, they created a feature where you can link Google/FB to your PTC login so if it does go down in the future you can log in with those other services if you wish.

CalTopo[0] doesn't support email+password. It's one of the few websites I use that doesn't support it, but an unfortunate number of mobile apps don't either.

[0]: https://caltopo.com/map.html

Many (> 5-ish?) years ago, Spotify required Facebook login

Yep, that in specific made me hold off on deleting my Facebook for a couple of years. About 2 years ago I noticed you could just click ‘forgot password’ and unbind them.

I’ve gotten rid of Facebook, but now my account name is just a bunch of numbers.

DnDBeyond only has these types of logins and does not allow email+password

PUBG mobile requires either FB or G+. No option for email+pass.

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