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> Here in Europe, €30K would already be a good starting salary. Personally, 10 years in, I don't expect to reach €80k.

That's on par with engineers in any other discipline. Except those have a Masters, not just a bootcamp.

Well in the Paris region, as an additional data point people with a master degree from rather good engineering schools get 35K - 45K euro.

Is that before or after taxes?

Convention in Europe is to mention the 'before taxes' number. To the best of my knowledge that is true for at least western Europe.