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Emacs is great, but use whatever you want. Of course you’ll be missing on something but that’s true for a lot of things.

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Worth underscoring that you are always missing something. You don't dodge that bullet by using emacs, just pick what you want to miss.

For example, if you do choose to use emacs, then you are missing out on time you could have spent learning vim.

Nothing like a bit of vim vs emacs. Though I do get sick of vim winning every time ;)

Vim and Emacs are not in the same category. Direct comparisons are silly and useless, like comparing Pycharm and Notepad++.

Nothing’s in the same category when you look deep enough into them.

This says nothing about the matter at hand. The concept of category is useful, regardless of its impreciseness. And some categorizations are better than others.

> Nothing’s in the same category when you look deep enough into them.

That’s also patently false: many things belong to the same category. Everything that exists belongs to the existent category, for example.

I used Vim for two years, now I use Evil on Doom Emacs. I actually find it superior to the real thing.

Evil mode on emacs, that was easy ;)

IMO Emacs is better at being Vim than Vim

One thing I like more about Vim is that its ideal for quick edits in the command line. I don't my whole Emacs init for that. Maintaining two sets of configurations on Emacs is not as simple as it should be.

Try configuring your environment so you run constantly within your Emacs, and use tramp to get to those quick edits. I do reach for vim when I'm on like an airgapped or DMZ'd system, so I totally know what you are saying. Tramping out to nearly all my servers has let me retain for longer the threads of flow established within my Emacs session.

Lately, I've been experimenting with CRIU preserving my tmux'd Emacs session state. So unless an OS update hits libraries my Emacs session needs to reload, I should be able to maintain a better relocatable resumable state than even the Emacs desktop alone could.

Run Emacs as a daemon/server and then connect with emacsclient in the terminal. Will start up in about the same time as Vim.

emacsclient usually starts even faster than the Vim (even without .vimrc)

I run Emacs as a daemon but I need two sets of configurations because many colors and keybindings won’t work on the terminal.

You can run multiple daemons of course.

Complexity intensifies... hahaha

But be careful with vim, because one does not simply quit vim...

... or exit it.

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