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This _looks_ really nice. I'm a fan of smaller phones, I currently own a Pixel 2, and if it was a tiny bit smaller, I think it'd be perfect.

However, saying that I think the challenge with this phone might be the battery life. It comes with a free phone case with a battery pack(making the size waaay chunkier than without the case), and the specifications don't mention mAh, just 'battery life' (which from my experience is rarely accurate).

According to https://www.gsmarena.com/palm_palm-pictures-9290.php it's only 800mAh, and from the images it's clear that they're making the screen look much larger than it actually is. Hmm.

I really dig the concept though.

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I'd be interested if its battery wasn't so tiny.

Doubt it would last the entire work day on a single charge with casual usage (playing music, making some notes).

It feels like more of a companion than a phone replacement. I feel like it'd be just another gadget after a few days sitting in my drawer, never to be used again.

Local music playback, probably with display switched off, is only 9.5h. For comparison, modern iPhones claim >60h just playing audio.

Another indicator is that all battery life examples are for activities that typically have the display switched off.

So, I guess you are right. I like the size :)

Has something happened to iPhones recently? My iPhone 8 can barely make it a full day of sparse use without being charged...

Batteries degrade (some faster than others, depending on usage patterns). Battery life is quoted for a new one.

Don't know about iPhones, but the only way my Nokia 7 plus will do 60 hours is without radios, reading music from internal storage, and piping sound do a powered speaker.

Yes. I can get a day and a half out of my XR easily with quite heavy usage. And the battery health is 90% after 18 months of ownership. Best phone I’ve ever had.

For comparison, the XR has a 2942 mAh battery and the 8 has an 1821 mAh battery.

Anecdotal experience like this is totally useless. Sometimes I can’t even make it through half a day with my XR.

About the same time of ownership; battery health is 91%

Well no not really. It’s two data points. Let’s work out what is different and work out why yours sucks :)

I run mine with default apps, couch to 5k, nutracheck, YouTube, eBay, Santander, OS maps, prime video, Netflix, slack, PayPal, Uber eats, duo mobile TOTP and that’s it. No social crap.

I’m on a brand new 2016 model iPhone SE A1662. Full charge capacity is 100%. I rarely get through the day before I have to charge again with moderate use.

I’ve been using a iPhone SE as my primary phone since summer 2016.

If I recall, my original new iPhone SE had great battery life. It was first on iOS 9.

Up Until iOS 12, Battery life was fine on it. With iOS 12, had to get a extended battery case; that held up As a workable solution until iOS 13.

At the end of last year, after iOS 13 came out I replaced that iPhone SE with a brand new one I bought on fire sale.

That had an accident this week, which I replaced with another new iPhone SE.

For it, I set it up as a new device, without any apps, and not restoring from any backup, I still have the same battery life.

I’m going to chalk it up to iOS background process bloat and third party background app refresh, etc.

It will be I nteresting to see how iOS 14 Holds up on the iPhone SE 2016.

What can I say, I refuse to use a phone without flat sides, no headphone jack and not of a reasonable size. I could take a few of those exceptions but all three has been a no go for me. Really the new “meh” battery life is the only complaint I have about this device.

Really excited for the rumored iPhone 12 5.4 inch since it may be about the same size as the old SE; with flat sides.

“I’m going to chalk it up to iOS background process bloat and third party background app refresh, etc.”

This. I’ve noticed my 6s is frequently warm, indicating heavy activity.

Top suspicion is Photos processing faces/recognition/etc.

> it may be about the same size as the old SE

I want this to be true but I doubt it very much.

Mix of battery aging out and possibly more background activity.

The gen 11s have rather good battery life (I rarely dip below 50% at day's end even though I use my phone a lot) — though some folks have apparently reported drain issues — but they have almost double the battery capacity of an '8.

Yes. iPhone XR already had great battery life and 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max have more than 4-5 hours additional battery life compared to Xs and Xs Max. My 11 Pro can easily last 1.5 days with heavy usage.

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