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> I don't like to use infection as a standard because that depends 100% on how much testing you do

As I pointed out, our infection rate is higher than European countries that have a testing rate >= ours. So that is a fair comparison. I.E. our positivity rate is higher.

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Source please for testing rate? Both for the European countries, and for the individual US states (looking at the US as one lumped whole will give misleading results because different states are at different points in their infection, some are ending like NY, and some are starting like CA).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

You can click through to get more granular on the country, state, and county levels.

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