Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify
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In my experience, it’s only when I get on an editorial playlist that my songs get heavily featured on algorithmic playlists like Discover Weekly.
So how do you get on editorial playlists? I sincerely have no clue. I've been on editorial playlists 16 times but I have no idea how to replicate that.
I find that this is true of many of these "I made X dollars per month doing Y!" articles: somewhere in the chain of events, there is a fateful intervention out of the control of the author that propels them to a higher tier of income than their peers who are otherwise following the same procedures.
> We want to make something crystal clear: no one can pay to be added to one of Spotify’s editorial playlists. Our editors pick tracks with listeners in mind. They make these decisions using data about what’s resonating most with their community of listeners.
https://artists.spotify.com/blog/share-new-music-for-playlis...
If you want it from a source other than me: "Inside the Black Market for Spotify Playlists" https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/spotify-playlist-black-mar...
"We did X, Y, Z. Oh and we also got lucky".
It's not that X, Y, Z is necessarily bad advice, just that obviously nobody really knows how to be successful with anything. The closest you get is to know things that improve/decrease your odds.
Comparatively, my dad has a moderately successful youtube channel, his most popular video has 18m views, and the next 3m. He has 66k subscribers. In an average month he'd earn ~£300 or so. Though usually quite a lot more around Christmas.
Streaming might not pay much, but at least it is possible to be heard at all I suppose.
I’m a professional musician and categorically reject the “but at least it is possible to be heard at all” angle. No. That is bullshit. Spotify is replacing BOTH album sales and radio play, and yet it pays multiple orders of magnitude worse than either.
As to your first question, I think in my area it is both, though I was mainly thinking in terms of "stations that dont play top 10 or 40 hip hop / pop / country / faux rock".
Maybe radio does haven't that many listeners? But by my math, if your radio play goes out more than 265 people, you are getting less per listen than on Spotify.
The real loss is the $15 10 track CD, which someone would have to listen to 471 times to reach Spotify pricing.
You might have misphrased, but in the event you didn't: How does listening to a CD generate revenue?
Embedded in what you’re saying is the expectation that radio plays/streams/etc are primarily for “exposure.” It’s a tired argument and not one any professional musician cares about past a certain point, especially considering that, yes, radio plays ideally drive album sales. But in the world of Spotify, streaming replaces both. What matters is that a [radio station | streaming company] is licensing my music so that they can have something to attract people to in order to expose them to ads. Without the music, the model doesn’t work. Sure, some people pay to not have ads — I don’t care. That should only raise, or at best have a neutral effect on, my per-stream rate.
You’re right that the real loss is the CD purchase. Radio plays used to not only pay me and THEN lead to that further CD income, but now Spotify has replaced both and pays far worse than either.
“But Spotify pays $31.80 for 10,000 streams while radio only pays $0.12 for the same exposure!” I hear you saying. Wrong. Spotify pays $0.00318 per stream while radio pays $0.12 per “stream” (broadcast), and that’s the only number that matters (due to the aforementioned way in which radio works). So, not even counting the much larger cost of CD sales, Spotify has reduced my income by nearly 38x. This is all fuzzy math, but that checks out with my anecdotal experience and talking with older folks who were selling gold or platinum records pre-Napster.
Streaming is NOT okay where it is right now. As a music listener I can’t argue that it’s not a better product, but as a music creator having my income slashed by at least 38x isn’t worth it.
To give you an idea of a still-decent avenue for income making music and how far it’s fallen, I’m primarily a composer for film/TV, and broadcast royalties for a single broadcast of a single minute of underscore can pay between $0.99 to a few dollars for broadcast, cable, terrestrial TV. On the other hand, an entire yearly quarter’s worth of earnings for that same minute of music on a streaming service (untold thousands of streams) rarely pay a single dollar — usually more in the single-digit cent range. Do the math — it’s worse than 38x. On a recent royalty statement I calculated that streaming services paid 70x worse than cable. And to top it off, some streaming services are outright refusing to pay legally mandated writers’ royalties (the portion I’m supposed to retain and get paid for, no matter what, by law). It’s moved to cable, too — Discovery tried to pull a stunt last year where they just decided “no more royalties.” They walked it back, thankfully, but we all took it as a warning shot.
Imagine your coding salary getting slashed from $100k to $2k, and imagine never having benefits in the first place, and having had all the costs associated with doing the job shifted from the company to you over the last twenty years, and you’ll get an idea of what it’s like to be a working musician or composer nowadays.
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To further clarify my point about streaming:
Radio and albums were how people consumed music in the old days — the deal was that if you want something on-demand, you gotta shell out and buy the thing. Otherwise, endure ad breaks while waiting for the song you want to come on, listen to it once until who knows when, and hopefully you like all the other music along the way. Right?
Now, we can listen to any music we want at any time, on demand. Album ownership is pretty much moot. And that’s great! Again, as a music listener, I love it. But this means that we’re getting the benefits of album ownership in the format of radio. What do people demand more — the benefits, or the format? Obviously there’s a bit of intertwining between the two, but I’m sure most people would say “I care more about being able to listen to what I want when I want” than “I care about being able to stream music” (even though obviously the latter enables the former). This is why piracy was so great for music listeners — it enabled the former. Now, for a small fee, we get the convenience of radio and the benefits of not only album sales, but also piracy, which we now have to compete with. They’re basically the same thing, though: you “own” the album and can thus listen to it whenever you want.
At the end of the day, though, we’re paying for the more important of the two (album ownership) with the payment model of the lesser-valued (radio). Radio licenses worked for stations because they were (and continue to be) distributed amongst a large number of artists and labels, and could be negotiated down via the leverage that radio was ultimately driving album sales.
Now, those ad payments are distributed amongst literally hundreds of thousands of more artists, and instead of a radio station going cheaper with the argument “but this will lead to more album sales via exposure,” Spotify can just use its leverage of “well, fuck you, what else are you gonna do?” It’s a mob mentality. They’re essentially the only game in town and they know it. Furthermore, not all streams are equal — just as radio stations would license in order to play a popular song more often (getting more ears glued to the ads in between), Spotify doesn’t pay Beyoncé and Joe Amateur the same per-stream rate. The lions get the lion’s share and the rest get the scraps divided up between them — but “the rest” is the overwhelming majority of the artists present on Spotify. The curve is exponential.
Consumers are getting a categorically better product in every conceivable way and yet the payment to the actual creators of the product, the reason they’re actually there — to listen to the music - has gone down by such a degree that it’s laughable. It’s an unbelievable amount. It’s disastrous on a scale that is difficult to comprehend unless you live it.
Music is rapidly becoming a field that only the already-extremely-rich can do professionally.
It's a shame, because realistically the last 20 years should have been a golden age for small music production. You can now produce professional quality music with nothing more than a PC. I remember going with my dad's band to a recording studio and them recording onto an 8 track tape.
You can take your recordings and publish them on the same platforms that the professionals do, all from the comfort of your own bedroom.
Funny enough, I remember by dad's friend produced an album and, in the early days of CD recordings, convinced the manager of HMV to let him sell it directly from the counter in the store. My dad burned every one of them on our 2x CD burner. Man that cut into my flightsim time.
If I wanted to listen to some of the music you where involved in what would I search for?
The better argument you make is that Spotify shouldn't be compared to radio, because it is "on demand". It is more like a CD purchase. There is some truth to this, and it should probably fall in the middle pricewise (and it does) it's just a matter of which direction it should move. It shouldn't cost as much as CD, because you have to keep paying every month for access and have no resale option. You don't own it, you're just renting for 4 minutes. I did a lot of CD trading- spent way too much time and money in used CD stores which paid the artists nothing, but meant you could a least capture some residual value from a CD you purchased.
Having streaming access has really changed my music listening patterns. I hardly ever listen to an album on repeat. There's so much more to listen to, but I listen to each thing less. Patterns of consumption may have changed for others as well.
I don't know how to best try to get more money. You still have some artists selling directly, not putting all material on Spotify, only putting it on the higher paying places, putting it on well after release, treating it as a sample shop.
You say that you “know” that terrestrial broadcast isn’t based on the number of listeners, and then go and make the same argument that Spotify pays better than radio based on “radio plays with n listeners.”
> You are acting like a terrestrial broadcast to n listeners is equivalent to a Spotify non-broadcast to one listener.
Yes, I am, exactly! Please tell me you understand the difference between 10,000 people individually seeking out a song on Spotify vs a radio broadcasting a song one time to n people (and sure, n can equal 10,000).
I like how you say “$0.12 per stream is not a viable model for music” while somehow pushing that $0.00318 per stream is. You’re right, though —- $0.12 per stream isn’t a viable model for music without the album sales those streams used to lead to. Spotify, if it’s to replace both radio and CD sales, needs to pay at least comparably to both. I’d say $1 per stream with a small bonus on top if someone listens to an album from start to finish all the way through would be a decent model.
Your last paragraph betrays your ignorance of the subject. The situation in which an artist voluntarily choose to not put their music on Spotify is so rare I’m not sure it’s even statistically significant. A more common reason is due to the publisher refusing for some sort of money reason, but those situations are eroding all the time. Spotify is the de facto king.
And it’s not like “some artists sell directly.” Everyone does! They do so because they have to recoup the utterly disastrous rates paid by Spotify somehow. So yes, by all means pay for music directly. But it’s not a better product than Spotify, because both allow the listener the same experiencing of “owning the album” (due to the benefit of “on-demand access”), so direct music purchases are just a “nice to have,” nothing a musician can actually depend upon. In other words: who cares about the edge cases when the majority use case is so shit and is actively pushing edge cases even closer and closer to the edge. Direct music sales are not a remedy to Spotify’s abhorrent per-stream rate and overall effect on the music selling landscape. Only one thing is: negotiating better per-stream rates. Period.
What I am saying is that even though the $0.12 isn't based on the number of listeners, there is a number of listeners (n). So that $0.12 should be divided by that n in order to calculate how much money is paid per listen. If that n > 265, then Spotify is paying more per listen. I agree that the on-demand nature means Spotify should cost more than radio. Still, the argument that Spotify does pay less than radio per listen is wrong, and it makes your case a lot weaker if insist on that, because it's contrary.
When I said $0.12 a stream isn't a viable model for music, I didn't mean because it paid the artists too little, I meant it cost too much! Paying the artist and songwriter $0.12 per stream means charging the user about $0.15 each time they listen to the song. (Which doesn't seem right when compared to the purchase price of a song, unless people listen to music they purchase fewer than 8 times on average.) If they stream 25 hours per month, at average song length of 4 minutes, that's about 375 songs per month, or about $56/month. For heavy listeners, it would be a lot more. I don't think many people would sign up at that level. It definitely couldn't be covered by advertising. That said, you could probably get a lot more than Spotify is paying. Still, it does indicate some room there to get more than the $0.00318.
It is surprising to me that we don't see more exclusivity with music like we do with video content, where subscriptions to various services end up being necessary if you want to watch a particular show. The consumption patterns are quite different. However, given the number of competing platforms out there and the low switching costs associated associated, probably the best strategy is for a whole company with a lot of publishing rights to pull their content from the lowest paying services. Something like what Disney did to Netflix.
No wonder some musicians complain loudly about Spotify's rate.
By the old media standards (newspaper/TV/radio) reach of 66k would be good for a medium sized city.
I remember the days when people would go full-time on YouTube with less subscribers than that.
I do. Track down whoever at spotify controls those playlists and offer them money.
Create few playlists and add songs you like to them and also be diligent about liking and unliking songs. These will heavily influence your recommendations and you should be able to get back on track.
Just recently they started playing the exact same ads but sometimes they have a few syllables messed up. I think I now have first-hand experience in being gaslit, it really makes you doubt your sanity if you heard the "same" ad but "wrong".
I have playlists that work as filters for me, if I'm mass copying a playlist I first put it into the filter playlist, then I press "skip duplicates" now all the songs that are not on my shit list (fiilter list) will end up at the bottom labeled "now" on "date added" then I copy those to the playlist I want to and erase them from the filter.
It allows you to block either 1. the artist or 2. the song track.
* Album playlists, with "shuffle by album/entry"
* Disable song in album
* Tags for albums/tracks, sort by tags
* Genre block lists (they have artist block lists, let's go one step forward)
* Download n-minutes of a playlist (for when they're 16 hours long)
* Block tracks over n minutes on shuffle
<glares at The Girl Is Mine>
https://support.spotify.com/us/using_spotify/features/how-to...
Just seemed like they were describing their analytics/logging/recommendation systems as "not private".
I'm bummed because I really don't like Youtube Music.
Right click -> Go to playlist radio
I wish they had a 'stealth' mode or at least an option to reset your tastes.
https://support.spotify.com/us/using_spotify/features/how-to...
Netflix and the video streaming services are the worst here. I hate my Netflix recommendations, and can't get out of them.
I use YouTube bc it autostops playing and turns phone off when I'm already sleeping. And funnily enough, ads help me start sleeping faster :D
Maybe this'll be as useful to you as it was to me.
Bonus, you don't have the same recommendation issues that spotify has (I'm in the same boat with non-sensical recommendations, or the same tired songs getting recommended over and over again).
I will never subscribe even the paid experience is better.
If she listens just two or three songs, I'll get the dreaded reaggeton song in "Discover Weekly" next monday. If she uses the account for a whole day, the playlist is ruined for me.
It reminds me of Cronenberg's "The Fly" where Brundle had to teach his teleporting pod to reproduce living tissue rather than interpret it.
This is what's perhaps missing from Spotify, an easy way to namespace your account activity.
Still, I think the future is in human hand crafted recommendations like Stephenson sketched out in "Fall: or Dodge in Hell".
My friends send me weird stuff pretty ooften too.
How many channels are you subbed to?
I also have youtube premium, i wonder if that affects it?
So to over-simplify, something like instead of saying "You just listened to an RPG soundtrack, here's another RPG soundtrack!" it would say "You just listened to an RPG soundtrack, here's a symphony".
The idea is to lengthen the links of recommendations to encourage more exploration and wider discovery rather than circling the same narrow interest constantly.
There are weird pockets of the Spotify database for this (e.g. "lo-fi beats" artists that churn out hundreds of tracks with many artists) and no way to send any feedback (they shut down Line-In, their metadata feedback a few years ago). Disliking doesn't work because Spotify will only remember you don't like one of the artists, not all of them.
Great
Spotify's discovery tends to be pretty iffy for anything at least for me anyway, so I mostly follow labels I like on Bandcamp for discovery instead.
Now that Pandora lets you make your own playlists, or listen to individual songs, and download for offline playback (on airplanes for example), I don't see any compelling reason to switch to Spotify these days.
For me, Spotify ended up just playing the same artist, same album even, over and over. Same problem with their Shuffle feature - I could have a playlist with 500 songs from various artists, albums, genres and more... but I'd get the same artist, same album back to back to back far too often. So often, it didn't feel random at all. Just anecdotal though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_clumping
The best song randomizer I've seen described generates a permutation of songs, then "plots" them in n dimensional space with closeness being closeness being a weighted distance of closeness in the playlist and whatever metadata you have about them. (artist, genre, year, mood). Then you iteratively break the clumps until you can't find any or the number stops decreasing. If you still have clumps then you raise the bar for what is considered a clump and repeat until you hit zero.
Interesting stuff!
However, I've used Spotify since 2014 and still experienced the same Shuffle behavior. Strange, perhaps I'm looking for it now, and introducing some sort of bias.
It is interesting, however, that a music playlist company took so long to realize people wouldn't like their original Shuffle implementation. I don't think any device or software I used before Spotify had such a remarkably bad Shuffle experience - including the original iPods and other, much older software and devices.
If not I’d still get baby sleeping songs.
To fix this i started using the mediation apps that have these sorts of sounds. I also ahem downloaded a few albums i really liked
I wish there was a way to tell the algorithm to ignore a specific album, song or genre
I have a playlist for each genre and regularly discover new songs withing those.
https://community.pandora.com/t5/Feature-Requests/User-contr...
Seriously, I REALLY want a music service which gives me control over the discovery algorithms parameters.
Just in general, I'm sooooo worn out from living in a world where nothing revolves around "super users" and everything revolves around... average decent 21st century people.
Solution: use separate streaming service for the kids! I still use Spotify for everything, but kids music happens on Amazon Music.
That was almost a year ago and it’s still recommending ambient artists.
Edit: clickbaity: “How to Bomb Spotify”
What's the conversion rate for the Roman sesterces in 44BC to USD?
Also Spotify is definitely missing a lot of obscure music and there definitely aren’t enough live musicians. Otherwise I could afford to have a good band play live in my living room every Sunday morning.
There was a time when you had to have two mediocre gifts to make it: talent and beauty. Or just have one of those gifts, but in spades. It seems like there's a lot more mediocre talent now, since we've evolved to devalue beauty.
On a lighter note, I think The Onion captured the reality of incomes on Spotify very well by this captioned picture: https://local.theonion.com/band-blows-entire-spotify-royalty...
Spotify makes it easier than ever for an artist to get their work out there, which is great, but it’s similar to the publishing world, where most authors who self publish do so into the void.
Gettin' old
Gettin' gray
Gettin' ripped off
Underpaid
Gettin' sold
Second-hand
That's how it goes
Playin' in a band
It's a long way to the top
If you wanna rock 'n' roll
Besides, who doesn't love a good tee with your favorite band's lyrics on it?
What I wouldn't give for some of the shirts I've seen my dad wearing in old photos of shows he went to. Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc.
What and how has he been doing during lockdown?
Doesn't come from like a super wealthy family, but he'll be fine financially if things never return to normal. We're in our 30s so I do think he's looking for something more structured anyways, this might be a catalyst.
But then again, saying the same thing about Youtube doesn’t quite sound the same.
> I don't tour, I don't sell merch and I'm not on a major label. I'm just a small indie artist making music in my evenings— and Spotify is making that possible.
In other words, it's a hobby.
> I earn around $800 / month from music streaming. Spotify is 93% of that income.
> And every month about 65,000 people listen to my music on Spotify.
The number quoted was for listeners, and is correctly 1.23 cents per listener per month. If you want to go by listens, then it's ($800 * 0.93) / (177,000 * 0.96) = 0.44 cents per listen.
The reality for most creators, really. There's way more supply than demand and you have to contend with power laws.
The top ~1% of books, movies, games, music, youtube videos, twitch streams, HN threads, etc, always dominate. Capturing ~80% of attention/money. The distribution falls off rapidly with a long tail, which is unsustainable for most.
This is why I love listening to albums, because it flies in the face of throwaway/hyper-consumable media. Spotify, with its algorithmic playlists and singles focus, bolsters the throwaway consumption of music, but many artists also enjoy the long tail of revenue from album streams. If an artist creates an album with lasting appeal, they can smooth out the initial spike of physical sales with a long slow burn of revenue.
What is "throwaway" music?
Personally, I tend to listen to genre-focused playlists I curate over time, and often in "radio" mode (so algorithms select similar music). When I find something new I really like, I add it to my playlist. Rarely do I find anything I actively dislike, but there's lots of stuff that I don't add but I don't mind either way if I hear again -- is that "throwaway"?
I think like anyone, I have a gradient of music preferences -- ranging from "can't stand" to "love". The middle ground is huge -- there's a lot of good music out there, I simply don't have the capacity to "love" everything.
It's interesting to see him use SEO to describe algorithmic playlists. He would know, SEO is a huge part of his other business.
[1] https://www.indiehackers.com/interview/besting-the-competiti...
> I worried that readers would not trust this arrangement [affiliate links] when I first started. But in practice it hasn't been a big issue. In fact, readers ask me which links to click to ensure I get my commission. Honestly, negativity about my business model is more likely to come from a community like Hacker News than it is from my readers.
... although I think it’s probably accurate.
[1] https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX6J5NfMJS675?si=...
In my spotify preferences I have "Crossfade" disabled, but there is now a new setting that I haven't seen before: "Automix -- Allow smooth transitions between songs in a playlist". This is enabled.
I wonder if "crossfade" also needs to be enabled
Because... he wanted to have them subscribe and then click and play a list of alter-ego-monikers of himself, who release to unknown probably ghost-audience in Spotify
Making money in the way - without releases, without gigs.
And it is exactly 600-800$ per month he cited as the amount he made from one alter ego with several albums.
Somehow I'm sure there are others out there doing the same.
I'm leaving for folks here to imagine and comment how relevant would soon Spotify be for indie artists that will be competing with such Spotify click-botnets...
If discover weekly is truly that impactful a decision made by a model to include or not include a song could determine whether or not an indie artist can pay their rent that month.
Not quite iris dataset classification.
Edit: I should clarify that I only mean that this impact raises interesting questions and DSs (I am one) should pay close attention to the impact of their models.
/s
If selling CDs through a store could earn you (using simple but realistic numbers here) $100k per year, and Spotify streams to the same audience size earn $1k per year, it’s not unreasonable to expect that Spotify should add a hell of a lot more value on its end, perhaps in the form of driving listeners to artists — especially if Spotify possesses the means to.
It would be nice if people cared about things beyond $$$ and worked on art for the sake of art
True but you generally can't buy groceries or pay your landlord with art.
And somehow, I've never seen anybody suggest that since Daniel Ek and his team love music so much, they should forego worldly possessions and work for the sake of bringing music to the people.
One day, we can hope.
Try listening to only amateur musicians for a month while you work. You might come back with an appreciation for just how much effort and money is required to produce the art you personally care about.
I wholeheartedly agree with the “effort” part and I also think, the comparison of music to code is very apt.
However, wouldn’t it be fair to say that the money investment for creating the music (i.e. a mastered WAV or whatever format) can be incredibly low these days? And even distribution is incredibly low cost.
So barrier to entry for recorded music has been lowered to almost zero (for music as well as coding) compared to the days of vinyl and mainframe computers.
Also, since it’s so incredibly difficult to make a living making music, I find that many professional calibre musicians are indistinguishable from amateur musicians if you go by music income.
I honestly expect these days I could listen to very good music for a month by people who aren’t making a living from music (i.e. amateurs). But I’d argue that actually is the problem.
Unfortunately I don’t know how to tell those musicians from the one’s who are making a living with music (professionals) on the major streaming platforms, so I can’t put this to a test.
Labels are dead. Studios are dead. The onus to procure the gear and space to make music is entirely on the artist now. Yes, costs for some gear have come down, but to do truly professional work you need to invest at least a couple thousand in a computer and software (DAW, plugins, etc), another thousand minimum in speaker monitors, another thousand minimum in acoustic treatment, plus let’s call it another thousand or two for various misc stuff (display, keyboard, mouse, a few instruments, a decent mic and audio interface, midi controller(s), cables, etc etc etc). I’d say dead bare minimum you need $6k, and that’s ignoring the fact that so much music software are going to subscription models. You can easily add another zero to that.
Plus you need the space where you can actually make a decent amount of noise, the time (and money) to learn to produce, mix, and master your own music — all lifelong and singular skills in their own rights with their own masters, totally apart from actually writing and performing anything.
Add on distribution fees (which aren’t quite as low as you think in order to get to any sort of “professional” echelon), business and legal fees, etc etc etc, and things get expensive fast.
The important distinction here between coding and music is that the cost has entirely moved from a label/management firm to the artist themselves. No one really makes music in a studio with a console anymore. Yes, it happens (I’m a film composer writing orchestral music, so I’m still doing it — yes, we typically pay for the orchestral recording sessions, whereas in the past film studios took on that cost, and that alone can cost well over $100k), but all in all music is made on a computer. Just because that’s the same tool you use to code, don’t think it’s at all the same to you buying your laptop compared to the days when IBM built its own mainframe (and of course businesses still routinely give out laptops to their employees). Coding can be done even on a shit $300 Acer with free VS Code, but you’ll have a hard time making any professional music on that same computer with free software.
There’s a lot more wrong with your assumptions (such as amateur and pro musicians making the same income) but I’ve typed enough for the moment.
Further apologies for not making it abundantly clear that I'm on your side on the topic that professional musicians deserve to be paid like any other profession including programmers.
So inadvertently my GP post probably come across as disputing your right to earn money with your music. That's the opposite of what I was trying to say.
My post was more an (obviously misfired) attempt to guide the argument away from the equipment and distribution expenditures side of making professional calibre music - since that's trending significantly lower and lower compared to the 70s and 80s. Therefore I believe professional musicians are doing themselves less and less favours by mentioning that argument.
I think the more successful leading argument would be the investment of talent and time. To me talent is a continuing valid argument, since as a music consumer I hate to lose the most talented musicians to being average in some other profession at the cost of them not developing that talent to the best it can be, and to publish their work for the benefit of larger society (including me). -- I'd also hate so lose the most talented programmers to other professions etc.).
And to maximize their musical talent, that talented individual needs to have the time and energy to invest by getting paid for making music. The required cost of gear only adds to that need, but I'd say that your time and energy is much, much more valuable than your gear with today's equipment. For example over 5 years, I'd say your time should be at the very least 5 to 10 times more valuable than your gear - quite possibly more. (That ratio was very different in the 70s and 80s with lower cost of living and higher equipment and distribution costs).
And hell yes, you should get paid - and my heart bleeds for you and so many other high caliber musicians, who are finding it increasingly difficult to make even a modest living with creating outstanding music.
p.s. I can't profess to be knowledgeable about your arm of the professional music business. I have however reasonably deep familiarity with other parts (assuming your definition of a professional musician would also include those parts). For what it's worth, I count a sibling, a sibling-in-law, and a nephew as current full-time professional musicians in performing live, producing, arranging, musical direction and such. And we are close, so therefore talk a lot. And it may not count anymore, but I also made my living with playing live music for a while before bailing out to become a software developer. Which in turn over the years funded my reasonably nice home studio - so I know the costs of acquisition, maintenance and continued upgrades quite intimately.
Agreed, I can become a developer for quite a bit less money in gear - but as I said above, the equipment cost pales to a rather small percentage in comparison to the time and energy investment while needing to eat, while keeping dry and warm/cool, and even more so when you're trying to support a family.
But above all: My very best wishes to you in trying to survive and hopefully find or continue your niche to thrive in the generally grim environment facing professional musicians - only made worse by the pandemic.
> According to Farley, one song that contains only the word "poop" repeated over and over generates $500 in streaming revenue every month as of 2018, likely in part because children request it from Alexa or other devices.[4][5][6] Farley earned over $23,000 in 2013 from his song catalog.
I feel the UX could be improved and it might change listening habits similar to Discover Weekly
This comment may date myself
Although that's fine taste mate. 2112, timeless and fundamental to an entire genre.
On the contrary, most of the greatest contemporary hits was singles. I can't remember really bold and moving statements in the form of albums, except maybe "The Wall". Classic composers never wrote albums,their large forms were symfonies and opera - whole pieces of separate parts.
Albums was invented by vinyl/CD music industry and will die with them.
Albums, in the idealized form (there are, of course, lots that are collections of basically disconnected singles, too) are “whole pieces of separate parts”, like symphonies or operas (or, I suppose, soundtracks.) People who lament losing albums aren't talking about package-of-convenience collections of singles, they are talking about pieces where, while the individual songs may stand alone the same way each planetary theme in Holst’s The Planets can, but they also form a single thematic work with an arc and movement across the whole body.
https://www.stevebenjamins.com/blog/spotify-and-discover-wee...
Still it would be better if the posts had a date.
I have 14 "weekly" listeners on Spotify but I only started a month ago. Still, I'm short of ideas on how to grow this.
Off-topic question: When a song gets covered/made into an instrumental version by a 3rd party on Spotify , who gets paid for the plays?
The original recording artist or the 3rd party?
The other, (the ℗ copyright[2], and "master rights") is on a specific recording of the song, and is usually owned by a record label.
The cover generates royalties for both the recording artist (or their record label) that recorded the cover through the ℗ copyright and the songwriter that wrote the song (or their publishing company) through the © copyright.
I suppose this is peanuts compared to what a radio play is, etc. but strikes me as fairly reasonable?
Over the air looks to play 12c to 6c per play https://www.quora.com/How-much-are-music-artists-paid-in-Roy...
This is just like the tradeoff startups make when they choose to take VC.
Will giving up 80% of the company lead to the company being at least five times bigger? If so, then it seems worthwhile.
Really nice blogpost!
It's kind of like that PG quote:
"What Customers Want - It's not just startups that have to worry about this. I think most businesses that fail do it because they don't give customers what they want. Look at restaurants. A large percentage fail, about a quarter in the first year. But can you think of one restaurant that had really good food and went out of business?"
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For me it works, for others it may not be adequate.
I don’t need the physical media though.
Why? Probably something about renting vs. owning that’s always driven many of my decisions on spending money.
I listen to none of it now. I was a Pandora customer, now I'm a YouTube Music customer. In the car, it's SiriusXM.
There is an album I purchased which no longer appears in my collection. I am only able to listen to it via mobile app because it's still cached on the device.
In the course of writing this response I realized that I had not contacted customer support so I now have.
* Artists get most of the money, Bandcamp takes a fixed rate.
* I can have physical albums and/or .flac numeric version.
* If I am lazy, I have access to the streaming app of Bandcamp for the music I bought or to discover (actively, not through playlist) new artists.
Not perferct but better than iTunes and Spotify for me (and only for me not in general).
I could (and soon will) go deeper to prove my point, but Liz Pelly already did a lion-hearted job covering the problems with streaming platforms and Spotify specifically — they have a catastrophic effect on music.[1]
Spotify is the No. 1 enemy of music culture and artistic expression.
https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2019/06/how-the-spotify-soun...
Not to mention they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar a number of times, promoting their own fake artists "algorithmically", and it was such a good game that Sony got in on it as well.