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> there is a noticable stigma in the professional community around equipment that isn't Canon. If you're not using L-glass, it feels like you get the same kind of judgement that Android users experience when they show up with green texts in iMessage.

Especially for Cameras and Lenses that's solely on user's mind.

Your photos speak for themselves. You absolutely don't need Canon or L glass.

BTW, maybe you are not up to date with the current developments, but Canon gets a lot of hate and is looked down because of their mirrorless systems.

The new king is Sony

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For consumers, yes, they only focus on cameras/lenses. This isn't true for professionals, who literally earn a livelihood from their cameras. Canon Professional Services will repair and airmail your lens with a next day turnaround (free overnight shipping both ways), they will offer loaner lenses, event support, maintenance and cleaning services, a 24/7 support hotline, etc.

This is similar to the difference why Fedora is free, but RHEL costs over $300 a year for basically the same software just with added support. Professional/enterprise services are very different from what consumers need.

> Canon gets a lot of hate and is looked down because of their mirrorless systems.

The new Canon RF lenses are pretty amazing (albeit expensive) though, and the new Canon mirrorless bodies such as the R5 are shaping up to be highly competitive products.

Maybe, but your reply only makes my argument stronger, that is that Canon is not the king anymore, as it used to be for DSLRs.

Yes, I am not disagreeing with you. Sony's mirrorless bodies are presently the best and the Sony GM lenses also have the best-in-class image quality, surpassing DSLR lenses. For example the Sony GM 135mm f/1.8 is the sharpest available 135mm lens [1] and the Sony GM 24mm f/1.4 is the sharpest available 24mm lens [2].

Sony's ecosystem also has many amazing third-party lenses. A personal favourite of mine is the Voigtlander Apo Lanthar 65mm f/2.

[1] https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/03/sony-fe-135mm-f1-8-... [2] https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/08/some-new-wide-angle...

Lol just wait for the upcoming two bodies being announced in a few weeks. Canon is going to trash the competition. And the new lenses are unmatched.

Sony also has new bodies being announced in a few weeks and Sony's lens lineup is already unmatched. Even Sigma ART glass beats out most Canon lenses in DXOMark's tests and cost much less.

I seriously doubt you know Canon's lens lineup.

There are far more constructive ways to engage in discussion here than “LOL” at someone’s assertion and denigrating someone else’s knowledge.

I'd say it's certainly more constructive to go actually take a look at Canon's lineup and compare it to Sony. Now is also a good time to start selling any Sony gear you own while it is still worth something before Canon annihilates them in a few weeks.

Canon's lineup is seriously overestimated.

>Especially for Cameras and Lenses that's solely on user's mind.

Tell that to Ken Rockwell!

Wow, that's a name I haven't heard in years!

Yeah he has one of those sites people think about when they talk about the good old days of personal websites with useful info. Though truth be told he always went a bit overboard on the salesmanship angle... but still useful.

His website definitely shaped my early camera decisions.

This is probably going to change when the R5 comes out in July. If the rumors and specs are accurate it's going to be a beast of a camera.

This. The R5, R6. etc. will change the game the same way the Canon 5DmkII did 10 years ago. It is going to be interesting.

Sony is the new king for enthusiasts who spend their time watching youtube videos of pixel peepers trying to see which lens has the highest resolution or which sensor works best at ISO 12800.

for pros, the ruggedness, battery life, support, autofocus of dslrs are still important.

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