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Comment by davidw | Hacker News Reader

Oh, look, yet another company founded by an immigrant.

I don't know why and when you decided to go to the dark side of ruining HN with unsubstantive political comments and flamebait, after something like a decade of being the leading HN user arguing against it, but it's really dismaying and we need you to stop. Please stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Maybe it's because this isn't actually political flamebait and you simply misevaluated the intent and effects of this post.

Provocative one liners on divisive topics are certainly flamebait.

Here are the most recent 100 IPOs [1]. A quick look through the non-China focused ones is failing to show me that immigrants found eventual-IPO companies at a higher rate than you would expect from the general demographics. There's a bit of a misconception here that Tech is reflective of the economy as a whole (it isn't).

[1] https://www.iposcoop.com/last-100-ipos/

Is there some idea you'd like to share?

Immigrants are a net positive for the economy!

Indeed. A.S. G^2P was meant to chide the current administration for the (clearly very political) travel bans [0], temporary (??) suspension of visas (incl. H1-B) [1], and general racist isolationism.

[0]: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation...

[1]: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/20/881245867/trump-expected-to-s...

For what it's worth H1Bs were being misused by indian tech companies who got the majority of them [1] because the salary requirements haden't been updated for decades [2]

That meant the ability to undercut american workers.

I don't think there is anything racist about that.

[1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/02/09/h-1b-visa...

[2] https://alj.artrepreneur.com/h1b-visa-crackdown/#:~:text=Cur....

Racist? I’m a white European - where do I sign up for my visa?

In 1993, the California Republican Assembly (a conservative activist group chartered by the state party) passed a resolution declaring illegal immigration to be an economic positive for the state of California. A year later the party decided to go all-in on anti-immigration hysteria and paid for some disturbingly racist ads ("they keep coming"). This gave them short-term gains politically but by the 2010s the Republican party fell into permanent minority status with little prospect for even reaching the level to keep the democrats out of supermajority status in the near-term future.

Ralph Abernathy and Walter Mondale supported Ceasar Chavez's marches to fight against illegal immigration. Ronald Reagan had no problems with using such strikebreakers

Assuming positive intent, I think he meant “and that’s why we should encourage immigration”

Such a charged issue should have been accompanied by a more thoughtful comment. davidw was begging for misinterpretation.

It's a recycled idea from mary meeker. She appendixes immigrant founder lists to her internet report. It's very impressive and has some real societal implications (perhaps) for how we should address immigration policy.

How do you know the founder is an immigrant?

Edit: Founder is from South Africa, didn't see that in my initial search.

I’m speculating that they looked at the name and made that assumption, which would be all kinds of problematic on its own.

Or you could, you know, Google the person, rather than making assumptions based on their name.

Which person are you referring to as an immigrant? I haven't found anything suggesting Pierre is an immigrant yet.

> Which person are you referring to as an immigrant? I haven't found anything suggesting Pierre is an immigrant yet.

Pierre. That's because you didn't look hard enough, I guess?

https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2015/06/16/ncino-ceo-we...

You're right, first several articles on DDG didn't mention he is from South Africa.

I'm guessing the same. The co-founder/CEO went to Upper Iowa University. Could still be an immigrant, but seems unlikely.

And?

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