You need nil/null when doing systems work -- and Nim is capable of that -- but I don't know the rationale for allowing 'nil' in higher level language features.
You need nil/null when doing systems work -- and Nim is capable of that -- but I don't know the rationale for allowing 'nil' in higher level language features.
Nim interests me but this nil business seems questionable to me.
Just found this comment from the language creator,
https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/6638#issuecomment-487...
"We need the nil state to disarm pointers but that only means these can be nil and so would require a nil check before deref. Doesn't seem to be too hard nor too cumbersome."
Seems a bit dismissive to me
I would still recommend playing with the language for a while. It's quite practical, and the performance is very good. I've used it to write some utilities where I might otherwise use Python, but either needed more speed or needed to use it in a restricted environment where the Python interpreter wasn't available. The experience was mostly positive, and I would use it again.
The new battleplan is to integrate the Z3 theorem prover into Nim as DrNim:
- https://nim-lang.org/docs/drnim.html
The first use-case will be proving array bounds at compile-time and elide them. Future use-cases include not nil tracking.
1) Echoing the other comments in this thread about uneasiness with feature creep
2) Wouldn't have been a breaking change if the language didn't have nil from the beginning
It's something you similar to MyPy for python and type annotations. The danger is if it becomes non-optional.
That said contrary too many languages, the core language doesn't need:
- threading
- async
which are huge parts to maintain, but thanks to metaprogramming you can implement them as libraries with very nice syntax as well. It also allows compiler devs to focus on what they know well, compilers and leave those 2 highly specialized areas to people who are experts (or become experts) in those.
2: There are 2 dimensions there: nil is used for C FFI, for higher-level primitives you can use Option. And C FFI was needed to bootstrap Nim with a useful set of functionality and has an escape hatch so that people could start building early on and not wait for the language. So both from a functionality and a time-to-market point of view it was necessary.