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You say that Apple is demanding you change your business model but actually you're demanding that Apple accomodate yours.

If someone buys your app and doesn't like it then how do they know about the money back guarantee ? Because depending on how visibly you communicate that to the user at best you could make it hard for users to know about it and at worst you could be flat out being deceptive.

Either way Apple takes on the significant chargeback risk for your app which is far more concerning for them than whatever revenue they get.

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Oh sod off. Apple is the one who decided that the only way for users to install apps is through the Apple store. Once they open that up your argument might have some merit.

> Either way Apple takes on the significant chargeback risk for your app which is far more concerning for them than whatever revenue they get.

Gee, if only there was a way for the person to signup directly on the app maker's site, where they would assume all the risk...

You are still placing all of the reputation risk on Apple though.

If this guy builds an app which is forcing users into paying upfront and then hiding a money back guarantee in some hidden text then that is deceptive. And Apple suffers since they allowed the app to be sold on their store.

> And Apple suffers since they allowed the app to be sold on their store.

Well, they could allow the app to be sold outside their store, and then they wouldn't face any reputational risk from it.

I don't really see how this is deceptive either - if the app clearly states that you're paying for it upfront, and what the price is, then how are you being deceived? If you aren't willing to pay for it without trying it, then you can just not use it.

>Well, they could allow the app to be sold outside their store, and then they wouldn't face any reputational risk from it.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure Windows still carries the reputation of being a virus ridden software which was almost always caused by third party programs.

> Well, they could allow the app to be sold outside their store, and then they wouldn't face any reputational risk from it.

The service is sold outside the store (website). The apps to use the service are free on all platforms.

Nothing is hidden. You login and click a button to get a refund. It's easy, quick, no-hassle. And it weeds out a huge amount of free loaders who dont want to enter payment info (and i accept all sorts of 3rd-party payment so you dont have to give my payment processor a credit card number).

This is just how buying stuff works typically. You buy it, and if you don't like it, you return it.

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