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Programming is a subset of software engineering. A large number of important disciplines surround programming, including ones that just join one programmer's output to another. To state that you can get by solely with programming is foolish if you are tackling a problem of any complexity.

Of course, reducing the overhead and improving the morale of developers is always a good thing, but somehow I don't think this is what you were implying.

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Stop trying to be all boring and rational. We are busy ecstatically voting up an article in which Zed Shaw says "motherfucker!" numerous times, providing much mirth for all. Next up are funny cat pictures.

I know this goes against the old guard, but I'd much rather laugh at a post like this once in a while than have HN be serious and dry, every day, every submission. That's never going to happen, but I haven't gotten as much amusement out of a HN item and its threads in a long time, and that's of value to me.

It's an outright tragedy that any lighthearted submission immediately brings out people replying "flagged!" and lamenting that HN is turning into Reddit.

Kudos to Zed for pulling it off. If only it had been Lighten Up, Motherfuckers.

I bet pg upvoted

Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset that values unit tests, methodology, and a whole host of other bullshit over shipping code.

I like unit tests, because they're also, Programming, Motherfucker.

Software engineering is a subset of programming, particularly the subset where people give a shit about the code they ship.

Ha! You tried reason. Fool. This isn't a place for reason.

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