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I'm quite frustrated they are calling this end to end. I can't find it now but a tweet earlier indicated that they have the keys and can help law enforcement with investigations which means it's can't be end to end.

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Any centralized E2EE service has the (public) keys; that's the only way to distribute them to users. You have to trust (or verify, in the case of Signal) them to deliver authentic keys rather than MitM'ing you.

It wouldn't be a problem if anybody at all had the _public_ keys, I think he meant the private ones.

It’s the new corporate offering of e2emitm

or rather, e2e2e

End to Eavesdropper to End?

End to End to End :)

AB/BC link encryption is the correct way to refer to such a scheme.

If we're being serious, then then another term used is "hop-to-hop encryption", as in [0]:

"Unlike PGP and S/MIME, STARTTLS provides hop-to-hop encryption (TLS for email), not end-to-end."

[0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/technical-deep-dive-st...

Now I'm seriously scared, I found that hex sequence in the ESI of my last browser crash

You should copyright and license it to Zoom

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