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Gotta throw this out there; if you hate ads but actually like YouTube and want to support YouTube creators, I’d highly recommend YouTube Red. Totally worth it IMO.

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FYI, it has been called YouTube Premium since 2018. I pay for it, as I can't stand advertisements. For the amount of Youtube content I watch, it's one of the more cost effective services I pay for.

Which was a positive name change.

"YouTube Red" sounded like some adult service. Whereas YouTube Premium leaves most people knowing what it is before you tell them.

Yeah it was way too similar to RedTube, a porn site.

I can just imagine the meetings where everyone but the Product Marketing Managers knew why "YouTube Red" is a bad name, but didn't want to speak up.

It's also worth knowing that, at least according to Linus Tech Tips in a recent one of their WAN shows, they informed their users that YouTube premium pays them better than regular YouTube ads, so that's something valueable, too. I don't remember which one of the WAN shows it was; but, I think it was in the last 2 months. Definitely since the quarantine.

Why do you think it helps creators?

I'm also a Youtube Premium subscriber, but a creator told me that Google pays less after my views than views from non-premium youtube viewers.

> a creator told me that Google pays less after my views than views from non-premium youtube viewers.

What? It feels like a deterrent to me.

Citation needed, please?

I have only heared it, didn't read it, so it might not be true. I juat wrote this anecdote, because the opposite isn't cited either. I can't give you citation, I'm sorry.

Youtube Premium is quite expensive for paying to remove ads and to download videos on mobile unless you’re also willing to use Youtube Music as your dedicated streaming service (and last I checked on the desktop there wasn’t even a way to disable the video part, which is an absolutely colossal waste of bandwidth).

It’s insane to me that they don’t include Premium with a YouTube TV subscription. I’d immediately switch from AT&T Now (formerly Directv Now) if they included Premium, even as a discounted add on.

YouTube TV started out as something that was almost worth the price; but, yes, it's a service that, IMO, combined should be max $45 a month. At $60 a month for both, it's just absolutely not worth it.

They still force you to pay for dozens of channels you’ll never watch. They don’t have basic ad blocking for the tv content. How is it better than cable again?

I use YouTube premium in the browser, and there's no video visible in Google Music. I haven't checked to see if the stream I'm getting the data from is more than just an audio stream.

Youtube premium gives access to youtube music. I had no idea Google Music still existed—I thought it was phased out for the youtube service.

This involves giving out validated billing details to Google which from a privacy point of view is much worse than just letting the ads be (they still track you but at least it's pseudonymous).

How is it much worse? If you're already using Gmail, they know _way_ more than your billing address.

This assumes that you're using Gmail or even a Google account. I'm comparing it to using ad-blockers without being logged into a Google account at all.

But even then, if they're stalking you already, why would you pay them money for this "privilege"?

To get rid of ads, because I am pretty consistent about my stance that if I can pay for something to not have ads, I'll do it.

The only exception so far has been Firefox's new thing because it feels weird giving a third party all of my internet browsing history.

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