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That depends on what you want to achieve with your time. Want to do something meaningful? Start your own business/startup, volunteer or become a cancer researcher (all debatable of course). Want to survive and get promoted in a corporate world? My recipe will get you there. 1 part work for 9 parts politics. If that makes you feel bad you can water it down to 1/8.

I define "corporate" as any human org greater than 100 members, including non-profits, academia, military, even your damn scout troop.

Also: never communicate early. Communicate after you've solved the issue to look like a go-getter, avoid prolonged discussions and prevent people from taking credit. If you manage to take credit for someone else's hard work (say, if they're not a good communicator), all the better. That will help with maintaining a low work/politics ratio.

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Love this thread from your end. I think you're speaking some really hard truths that folk don't want to hear. Because of the way big organizations work, it's true to politics is a huge part of what the vocation entails. I'd love to read a blog post about this at some point.

I've been doing this for a long time, rarely with good consequences for myself. So thanks for the positive comment.

I'm actually writing a book about this.

I'd be interested in reading it. How would I get updates on your work?

You wouldn't, to be honest, since I don't have a website, twitter or FB at the moment, and it's on the backburner. Besides, it's probably way too cynical and toxic to actually publish. Just look at the responses here.

Also, I'm planning for that book to have a slightly narrower focus, so I may have not done the project any justice.

I do have a lot of tech machiavellianism to write about though, from the small, but notable tech community in my country (Israel).

I don't know if this was intended to dissuade me or other readers, but you've only piqued my interest even further! If it is cynical and "toxic", is that only because it reflects the true nature of the thing it discusses?

Hard to separate "true nature" from the way I view things, so I can't really tell. Another person might view things differently and write a completely different story.

Do you think people would read this though? Maybe in blog form?

There are two opposite approaches here. I do like my job, we have team goals, we work together to achieve those, we have successes and failures along the way. And to me, an engineer, it brings enjoyment, challenges and confiscation. And I also suck at politics and try to avoid it as much as possible. So I love what I'm doing and I am getting paid for it. But that is not the case for all the people.

The approach you describe sounds like a piece of advise for someone who hates his job. So one would do as little as possible just not to get himself fired. Sounds like an awful position to be in.

Most people, even in tech, consider their job to be just that - a job. In the worst case, they hate it.

Also, you seem to be content with being an individual contributor engineer, which is perfectly fine, but if you want to get ahead, you're not going about it the right way.

I've been an engineer for 20 years now. I switched to other roles 2 times but did not enjoy it that much so I went back. Salaries in engineering are decent and I prefer a job that I like over a promotion and having some extra money.

It's great that you know this about yourself and have been lucky enough to be able to make these kind of tradeoffs. You are in a much better place than a lot of others.

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