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Police have proven, without a doubt, in the past week, that they cosplay as military because they lack the necessary discipline to join the actual service, and that the only joy they get in life is to take a break from beating their wives to inflict violence on innocent civilians. They're a rogue force that must be defunded and disbanded.

It's been remarkable to watch the military, where they've been involved, handle things so much better than the police have. The difference in training and attitude couldn't be clearer and it makes the police look even worse by comparison.

Yes, I would very much like to hear what the service members onsite have to say about the police behaviors they witnessed.

It truly seems that the military members' first and foremost allegiance is to the country -- and that for many cops, their allegiance is to their department.

Disturbing thought of the week: would a coup actually be an improvement on the current situation?

No, because now you have two problems: police brutality and a coup. What's needed right now is a strong declaration, the creation of new country-wide laws forcing 3-years police training focused on violence de-escalation, an independent body of investigation specialized on police abuse allegations, a higher standard of accountability than regular citizens for police, obligatory bodycam footage, malpractice insurance, and automatic firing for hate speech and blatant racism.

I've thought this through.

The military is both loyal to the Constitution and wary of the idea of fighting an insurrection at home - the generals know exactly how bad it gets because they have just been doing that overseas. They have every reason to do what it takes to put back the country together with minimal harm, given a crisis where they are called upon to make a significant commitment of forces. But they won't act until they start getting orders that will trigger such a crisis - i.e. to do unconstitutional acts at home with the goal of putting down insurrection.

And that presents the worst case scenario: Months to years of military governance that is premised in reestablishing the values and principles of the USA. This will necessarily bring out some related questions around the founding document and overturn some historical precedents.

But it will not turn into a dictatorship because that makes the loyalties compete with each other: You would need a leader so strong, so approved of as an ideal, that they can overturn centuries of belief in the nation. Unlike countries that have little history in this regard and are prone to instability, the only way any such leader can look legitimate and maintain power is by following through on the core values of the USA and therefore winning "hearts and minds". As such they would reinstall a republic in due time.

And that is the worst case, as I see it. It only gets milder from there, with more of the reforms coming from within the existing system.

Military deals with violence issues. It's just not happening at home and most of it isn't even recorded.

@greg_doucette posted over 200 videos in this thread but it's difficult to scroll through all of them, you may have to search something like:

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Agreg_doucette%201%EF%B8%...

or https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Agreg_doucette&src=typed_... if that one doesn't work here

Thanks--will look later. For someone who already has, are these mostly legit? That is, is there enough context to see that the protesters were acting lawfully and not the instigators?

I've been thinking of relocating away from the DC area and eventually, a database of police and local government attitudes will be one of the primary factors in deciding where to relocate, if I decide to do so.

Obviously NY, Seattle, Minneapolis, Louisville, and Asheville NC are not under consideration.

Some of these are hard to watch.

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