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The AI part are:

- Business name generator

- Slogan generator

- Logo maker

- AI heat map generator (given a mockup of website, analyzes where users potentially would look at)

- Content generator https://zyro.com/ai/content-generator

I can see logo maker and content generator proving to be very useful for 'mom and pop' websites; quite practical use of 'AI'.

Something I've noticed in both website builders and theme buying is that it is very hard to separate the incredible stock photography from the overall style of the site.

The common experience seems to be picking what you think is the "perfect" theme only to find that it's really dependent upon having thousands of dollars of high-end photos taken.

It seems like an unsolved problem.

You can use free stock sites like Unsplash, Pexels, etc. Are you referring to more specific stock photo shots?

I used to work on Squarespace's templates team, and this is a very real problem we talked about with some frequency.

There's a few solutions, one of which is designing more around text, but in many instances people still want the media-heavy look. For those cases, the image tool tied in with Unsplash, which made getting high quality stock images pretty easy.

I like Unsplash, but I don't understand their business model. What makes it sustainable?

I don't have much visibility into that but the Squarespace ad on their homepage is absolutely a clue :)

Unsplash is just an image hosting place. The photos are contributed by users. Unfortunately, they no longer have a CC0 license.

What about pixabay?

I wonder how difficult it would be to have GAN-generated "stock photos" to match a particular style.

My understanding is that resolution is still an issue.

Squarespace was leaning heavily on 'AI generated websites' only a few years ago. Just add content (text, images and such) and Squarespace's AI magic would turn it into a wonderful website. I just now had a look at their website and it does not have any reference to AI at all.

Very surprising. Or maybe understandable: I am not sure if 'AI generated' is a thing to a non-IT person. It sounds complicated. Maybe that is what Squarespace learned.

I am very sure the two people that asked me for an advice in the past days would not care. 'Easy', 'cheap' and maybe 'drag-and-drop' might do it. 'E-commerce', 'onine shop' even more.

Thanks for your insights!

We are working in order to make our website builder the fastest and easiest way to go online.

In addition to easy to use drag and drop, e-commerce and other essential features we introduce AI tools in order to help our users to launch their websites even faster.

It seems like Squarespace has an AI powered chatbot on HN, too.

You're replying to the OP, not squarespace.

The "AI" bit is for investors.

And for a non-IT person.

Any time I hear “AI powered”, I can’t help it but the image of a curtain pulling back to reveal a bunch of hamsters turning a wheel comes to mind.

I think the community is always going to be a little skeptical of website building tools "powered by AI" after thegrid.io[0]

Hopefully Zyro proves the wary wrong :)

[0] - https://reclaimthenet.org/thegrid-io-not-responding/

More people taking up website building and creation, it is nice to see that it can be done easily with a service like this. I think it adds to the accessibility, not everyone understands the tricky part of building a website and most want to do it fast, so o I think this feature is pretty cool

Hi HN, Together with the team, we want to help our users bring their ideas to life, whether that’s by creating a website or an online store.

We have made Zyro website builder super easy to use and added some AI-features to help our users to generate text and understand their visitors better.

Make sure to let us know what you think below in the comments.

What's the ML part of Zyro? Website text generation?

Text Generator and AI Heatmap is integrated to the Website Builder.

You can read more about AI tools: here https://zyro.com/ai

Can't help but think the AI-generated content is a little ambitious, with results like these, for reference I chose Music & Entertainment > Indie Music as the categories for generating content:

> Indie music is a great genre of music. Indie music is the best of indie music. Indie music is my music, my life, my music. Indie music is the world. Indie music is life. Indie music is indie music. Indie music is Indie music.

> The band formed in 2009 in the New York City music scene. The group has been featured on: MTV, NBC, BBC, CNN, PBS, The O’Reilly Factor, BBC Radio, MTV, NBC, BBC, MTV, and MTV2. The band has been the subject of performances at several shows such as: E3, E3 2013, E3 2014, E3 2015, and E3 2016. The band has been featured in: YouTube, YouTube Red, YouTube Music, MTV Music, and YouTube Vlogger.

Who would this actually be useful for?

Thank you for pointing this out.

At the moment, if you’re choosing by the category, you’ll always receive 5-7 results so that you can select the most fitting one. Also, AI is generating “on the spot” and doesn’t have pre-made templates that would be presented every time (what makes the generated text unique) - so if the generated text doesn’t meet your requirements, you can generate again and again to get new, different results.

Obviously, AI-generated text cannot replace a human writer. Its purpose is more of providing a guide than generating a ready to use the content. It helps to understand how to put everything together, what topics to use. The user only needs to edit the result, so it fits their needs.

As well, our team is working on training the AI writer tool to get better and more accurate results.

Where you would make a difference, at least in Europe, is an integrated multi-lingual (and multi-currency) feature. One where you can translate objects (h1, text, message) instead of creating a copy of some page. None of your competitors (which are many) get this right.

From the technical side impressive! But if a website plans on using AI to generate content does it really need to be there? Personally, I couldn't think of a situations where turbocharging my fluff generation would lead to a better website. Is this strictly for SEO?

Thanks, serjester!

AI Writer helps when you are writing a lot or longer texts.

As well - generated content is SEO friendly because words are collected when crawling the internet. Although, of course, a generated content won't always be perfect, so you may have to make some edits here and there, but it's more convenient than starting from scratch.

Sounds a lot like scraped/spun content if you ask me, and that's already a problem with many sites right now. That doesn't make for unique content, nor anything most people would want to read/find useful.

How is this different than all the others that fail to deliver?

Our main focus is customer success and happiness.

Understanding our users’ daily struggles and developing powerful solutions that fit everyone’s needs is really important to us. All the feedback from users is being collected and forwarded directly to the product team so we could understand and improve our services depending on our customers’ needs.

We believe that awesome team can make a powerful and extremely easy to use tools with the support from customers.

Man, your PR seems to suffer from corp speak and is something you would expect from a fortune 100 middle executive and not a recently launched startup. Dare to be human.

Congratulations on the launch. I am not really sure the world needs another website builder but your pricing looks attractive for small businesses outside the west.

No coding skills needed is good, but i really need a "Export code" button :)

Could you share the optimisations done for performance, CDN locations, etc?

Zyro is using high-availability AWS (Amazon Web Services) to store and serve website assets. We’re using a combination of multiple layers on top of that to achieve the best possible speed:

CDN to serve a website from location closest to website users’ - improving download speed

Caching at the edge, to make sure that static assets are not downloaded when not necessary

Serverless tasks for optimization of built website (such as image compression)

Cloudflare - to provide a set of optimizations and protect from attacks

Optimization techniques such as brotli/gzip compression, minimization of the code, etc.

this looks interesting!

could you share what are the AI tools based on? thinking to get into AI, would be nice to read on how the actual working product is made

Sure!

For example “AI Writer” is built on GPT-2 transformer-based language model with 1.5 billion parameters, trained on a dataset of 8 million web pages. It is trained to predict the next word, given all of the previous words within some text. You can read more on it here: https://openai.com/blog/better-language-models/

Another interesting feature is “AI Heatmap”. Basically, we took two different datasets to train our model: a dataset from an eye-tracking device and dataset gathered by using BubbleView methodology. More on BubbleView here: https://bubbleview.namwkim.org/

AI for heat map?

Yes. For training our model we took a couple of different datasets - a dataset from an eye-tracking device and dataset gathered by using BubbleView.

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Can you tell me more about your technology so I can invest?

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