Singapore at 24 deaths (despite a relatively high number of cases).
There's a thread on the front page right now re Sweden's handling. A lot of the comments seem to be trying to rate the performance of various European countries against each other. I guess I'm missing something, because I'd just categorize most of it as a disaster.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101034/vietnam-number-o...
Yes, you're right, and I realized that just as I made the post. But I still don't think that normal rates of death automatically equal coronavirus didn't kill anyone.
Do you have any statistics that show that if I die of COVID then this imply that my probability to live 1 more year was very slim without COVID? This kind of number as less then 1 year seems very non-scientific and more something you would use to push your opinion, like yes 400K people died but 99% of them would ahve been dead anyway in a few months
It would be nice to have 1 fact or even a made-up-fact that the numbers are screwed aside from _they have to be_. But even if we decided that it was impossible for Vietnam to have handled this properly, you'd still be left with the relatively minuscule death rates from Singapore, South Korea and New Zealand.
I grew up in Canada but have lived in Vietnam. There was no doubt in my mind who'd handle this better.
(1) https://theconversation.com/vietnam-has-reported-no-coronavi...
I know that I'm somewhat jumping to conclusions, but this feels so much like typical Eurocentric ignorance of other parts of the world whenever the latter manages to handle something better than them that it makes my blood boil. Just swallow your pride and acknowledge the findings of others, dammit.
In general there are multiple Asian countries with recent experiences with these kinds of outbreaks - you know, SARS? Would it be so hard to look at their conclusions of which methods of handling past outbreaks worked and didn't work? To learn from their mistakes so we don't have to repeat them in our arrogance?
But now, our cases and deaths are rising fast, just as we're winding down the lockdowns.
Bangalore avoided infections since much of the country was locked down. The real litmus test will be to see how the infection rate holds after the lockdowns end.
This is a separate issue from Tegnell ignoring a lot of knowledge that is out there in order to stick to his existing narrative.
Based on that it seemed unlikely that things were under control...
Some of my Indian coworkers said their relatives said a mysterious flu was killing some people but they hadn’t made a link to Covid. This was months ago.
I usually find that India/Bangladesh/Sri lanka/Pakistan etc are categorized as "the subcontinent"
That said, infection rates in India have been weird.
Haven't seen any Swede question the fact that they gave the absolute power of handling the crisis to some unelected old white male boomer btw.
I admit I find it hard to believe that a country bordering china could handle this so well. But I am more inclined to believe the numbers are real than that the numbers are completely fake and nobody has produced any evidence of this.
Vietnam isn't North Korea. It's a country well connected to the world, plenty of people work there that have international connections or come from other countries.
A genetic quirk, perhaps? Or maybe a strain of another coronavirus (a kind that gives 'common cold' type symptoms) that has already swept the region and confers some immunity? Presumably people with the right expertise are looking into this sort of question already, but it seems like a lot of media reports are going off half-cocked. I'm not trying to apologise for European or US governments' handling of the crisis, but countries have all reacted differently and it doesn't look like that strong a correlation between their responses and the outcomes.
But crazy thought- what if different languages spread this virus at different amounts? some words in English release more droplets than those in other languages? Or because Italians speak more loudly than Japanese?
But I’d vote for simpler explanations.
Sneeze visualization.
If the massive differences with see among countries turn out to be accurate I suspect that natural causes will be found quite apart from governments' performances in managing the virus. Age, climate, genetic susceptibility, or other natural factors seem to be playing a big role.