> I hope, that both sides, the protesters and police force will find a way, to exit that spiral of violence.
The two sides are massively unequal in terms of power, the onus is on the police to stop the violence.
The two sides are massively unequal in terms of power, the onus is on the police to stop the violence.
This is certainly not true except on an individual scale.
> the onus is on the police to stop the violence.
The onus is on every individual. On each side.
How to you expect protesters to deescalate this with absolutely nothing changing and high level LE people still not accepting any blame and pushing for military help?
Police knows how to deal with force, the goal of the protest should be to not give it any opportunity to apply the force, so that even the people who are against protesters can't find a way to justify police actions.
It may be too late for applying this tactic now, but if it was applied earlier it would make the protest much more successful. At least that's what happened in Armenia few years ago, when after many years of unsuccessful violent protests, non-violent protest brought a real change.
> and high level LE people still not accepting any blame
I don't know how you get that from OP saying that both sides need to de-escalate.
where did you find this figure? this is off by more than a factor of two from any source I can find.
The result is still more or less the same if there is 1.1 guns per capita.
I personally don't feel that pervasive civilian gun ownership is incompatible with proportionate policing, but that's certainly a debate that reasonable people can have.
But since you mention that, cops do not have to be heavy handed. Training around handling mental health helps. Training around de-escalation helps. Not being a murdering racist helps. Body cameras work.
If the guns were the main reason, we'd see similar reactions every time a group of open-carry white protesters show up on the streets. They're not treated the same way though.
Well, multiple people have been fired and imprisoned. And investigations are on the way to probably arrest and imprison more cops.
Mental health is probably a small part of the picture of civilian-on-police violence, unless you consider anyone who considers it a good idea to kill a police officer as intrinsically mentally unhealthy.
> If the guns were so scary, we'd see similar reactions every time a group of open-carry white protesters show up on the streets
Cops aren't generally worried about open carry nuts, because they are mostly a known quantity. I'd imagine getting shot at a routine traffic stop or doing a domestic violence call is much more on the mind of your average officer than getting attacked by someone open carrying.
1 out of 4 initially involved people has been charged. People who did the initial coverup are still untouched. One chief of police was fired by a mayor. Firing someone for helping with murder or current attack on unarmed civilians is a joke and bringing that up will only make people more angry. (Fired cops often go straight into security jobs)
Re. mental illness issues, have a read: https://health.usnews.com/wellness/articles/2016-12-07/how-c...
> Cops aren't generally worried about open carry nuts
Yeah. Turns out it's not about just any people having guns. Black Panthers and all...
Yes, apparently the likelihood of someone actually using the gun factors into their fear of guns. They aren't afraid of the mere idea of a gun, they are afraid of being shot by a gun. Not all people who carry guns are equally as likely to shoot you.
Police officers in the US face 12.9 fatalities per 100,000 workers. In comparison, construction workers see 14.3, agricultural workers see 17.7, farmers and ranchers around 24 and truck drivers 26.9.
Being an officer is not even close to the top most dangerous jobs in the US. Saying it's on the level of a 'third-world country' is objectively wrong.
This is a strawman. I never claimed this, and yet refuting it is apparently the core point of your post. Please proofread your posts before accusing someone of being objectively wrong on a matter which they never made a claim.
Police mortality isn't any more exceptionally high in a "third world country" than anywhere else. Your view that bad things = third world country, is simplistic. Your attitude is typical of a certain mindset. It's also boring because now I can tell a lot about you and could guess 100% correctly about any of you derivative political viewpoints.
Well go ahead and guess then, and let's see how accurate you are.
Cops don’t need to stomp on peoples necks till they asphyxiate to feel safe at work.
> You understand why US cops are so heavy handed though, right?
???
There are people to blame and it is not everyone's responsibility to make it easy and comfortable for the channel surfers at home.