Soviet Posters
sovietposters.com
sovietposters.com
https://www.sovietposters.com/showposter.php?poster=871
I remember seeing that growing up in a history book somewhere. It's just an image your never forget.
There is also something completely unsettling with the "here is how the dead mother and the crying child would look against your mid-century modern furniture" on the website.
Site was flaky sometimes returning 500s so I archived the page https://archive.is/ujUpy
There is also a terrible and shameful one I had never seen before, "Everyone to the Polish front". Do the owners know what they are posting there?
https://www.sovietposters.com/showposter.php?poster=85 (https://archive.is/DvQLY)
These might seems artsy and cool to some how haven't had their family members suffer during the wars there or who were sent to labor camps. But to those who have, these symbols and images carry a lot of significance.
it isn't really more terrible/shameful than the rest of Revolution and Civil War related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War - The Red Army was trying to get to Germany to support the Revolution there. It was along the ideology of sparking worldwide Revolution. It is just happened that the path was through Poland who wasn't a part of Russia anymore - it was a young independent nation state which has finally just got it independence back after more than 200 years of it being lost, and who had their own big plans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium, and didn't want to be steamrolled by Russia again. Polish were very enthusiastic in that war and tore the Red Army/Bolsheviks a new one. Btw, Stalin was one of the main commanders of that invading force. In the history lessons in USSR schools those events were kind of muted and/or pretty much lost from the narrative together with many other events/facts which would be hard to fit into the supposedly glorious story of Revolution and Civil War victory by Bolsheviks.
They tried to capture Warsaw. Budyonny's thugs were brutal as well. But it is interesting that somehow Budyonny managed to be a hero in the end after technically losing the war.
Another aspect of course is that it set the stage for Russians try to "recapture" Poland, and made a deal with the Nazi Germany to "split it" between themselves in 1939. That's when the Soviet secret police committed a lot atrocities there.
I leave it here, in case the author shows up.
I got to see some of them at an exhibition at Liljevalchs in Stockholm in 2018 [1]. My favorite was probably this one [2], which was encouraging workers to not be lazy. Design-wise I think this was the best one [3].
I apologize for the poor picture quality, but if you're interested then there are some more photos from that exhibition here [4].
[1] https://www.liljevalchs.se/utstallningar/sovjetisk-affischko...
[2] https://i.imgur.com/5l9t83s.png
I'm getting a good ol' PHP/MySQL error (EDIT: with credentials in clear text, I removed them):
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Having known folks who lived in the USSR and modern Russia, I recognize the romantic elements are the effect of powerful propaganda. In reality, people were burdened by not being able to meet basic needs and were afraid of their government. Engineering was done under the barrel of a gun.
Romantic elements aside, I think we can all recognize the USSR was responsible for remarkable accomplishments, ranging from sublime to deeply horrifying.
Good example is head of their space program — Sergey Korolev, who sent the men to space but wasn’t able to open his mouth properly because of the torture he went through in prison: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev
And unfortunately not much has changed since except the fact that you could leave or at least move to Moscow fairly easily
I would've expected a swarthier Moldovan, but maybe she's supposed to have been sunburnt from working in the vines?
(even getting TV shows from the UK, a western country, was hard, because they were on PAL. people used to "camera copy", running a VCR to a TV on one system, and videorecording that with a camera running the other system)
So anyway, lately I've been taking full advantage of web standards to see what I had only been guessing about during the Cold War.
(the kids shows are still useful; I've had enough greek that I already knew a good portion of cyrillic, but learned the rest from Khryusha, Stepashka, and Philya)
Full props to all the ex-Warsaw Pact countries who changed their basic political systems without much violence. молодец!
Some time ago I watched some documentary about people watching western movies in, IIRC, Romania during the Cold War. There was a flourishing black market industry, some people smuggled VHS tapes in their cars over the border (either hiding the tapes in their car, or then by bribing the border guards), others who knew English (e.g. school teachers) spent their evenings dubbing movies to the local language in somebody's home studio. And then because few people had TV sets and VCR's, people had makeshift movie salons in somebody's apartment.
In Estonia, people built TV antennas to receive transmissions from Finland; Finnish and Estonian are fairly close to each other, and in Finland foreign programs are typically subtitled rather than dubbed making it easy to understand. So people in Estonia were fairly familiar with Western TV series like Dallas or Knight Rider.
Kid culture behind the Iron Curtain is particularly interesting, since for some reason censorship wasn't as strong there. So you have kids classics like Uspensky's Uncle Fyodor, which, if you read a little between the lines, contains some pretty harsh criticism of the system.
(speaking of Sharik, I enjoyed the episode where he mail-orders a gun so he can gratify his "hunting instinct")
I also appreciated that кто там? кто там? sounds just like a bird... and it seems russians do still remember the show fondly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfhV0Sew0j4
(Speaking of hooligans, do you have any idea what year this might be from? I think it's 1989: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLa7NboOAw )
* the poor irish always get the slurs: hooligan, paddywagon, etc.
Here's a sci-fi one that as far as I'm aware didn't make it across except as bootleg dubbed tapes: The mystery of the third planet (1981):
Guest from the future (1984)
- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086723/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtWGKZatqTU
I think Julia's grandmother knows a thing or two because she's seen a thing or two?
(Wikipedia claims brits and french got this one, but we never did)
From easy-going spirit, - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmB4DfG-3K4 "Wow, a talking fish" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNQ1B7-Miog "I will give you this star!"
to late perestroyka era, - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnJbtbh4tDE Polygon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNHYz89sNc "There Will Come Soft Rains" (Bradbury) these cartoons retell a story of an early Heinlein era turning into Orwell/Huxley state.
Is there a copper pan in the upper left corner of: https://www.ferra.ru/thumb/1720x0/filters:quality(75):no_ups... ?
Incidentally, the poem wasn't that far ahead of its time. Covid's induced a new meaning, but after WWI "zone rouge" meant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge
I wanted to watch something lighter, so I tried https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i6bowAMHEk (a recent sketch about Nazis slowly coming to terms with living in a multicolored world) but for some reason it wasn't as funny tonight as when I first ran across it.
To me the Soviet Union represents this kind of philistinic failed experiment (Lenin was literate which therefore elevates him above Hitler?) come horror movie that is simultaneously terrifying and yet very fascinating.
One of the strangest things one finds in books about Soviet spies (double agents or not etc.) is that often the only photos of them in public taken with state blessing and thus surviving are those taken by the Soviet internal security services.
I find Soviet aircraft design quite interesting too, in the sense that even just in the cockpit designs you can see the work of designers making do with relatively limited budgets. In a flight simulator it becomes obvious that US planes are almost easy to use whereas Russian cockpits are one size fits all (i.e. training vs design costs)
Chief Rabbi of Moscow synagogue dies. In atheist soviet times, party functionary, not congregation, picks replacement.
Comrade Burns: Nu, who are candidates?
Comrade Smithers: Well sir, we have comrades Flanders, Szyslak, and Rabinovich.
Comrade Burns: Who is recommended?
Comrade Smithers: Is toss up, sir. Comrade Szyslak is impeccable Party member,
but knows nothing about religion. Dr. comrade Flanders
has degree in religion, but not recommended by Party.
Unfortunately, you have to decide.
Comrade Burns: But what about —checks notes— comrade Rabinovich?
Comrade Smithers: What? You can't appoint him, he's a jew!If anyone hasn’t read the below account of Oleg Antonovich Gordievsky’s life and defection, it’s well worth the time. Ben Macintyre (2018), The Spy and the Traitor: The Greatest Espionage Story of the Cold War
- Desired process: Parlaying emotional suffering into last-ditch displays of heroic boldness
- Doing what needs to be done come hell or high water (or, come softness/weakness)
- Mowing down one's fragile sense of self in order to become a new and stronger person via some objective process like meeting a goal
- Winning at all costs (and there will be costs)
Interestingly, the Soviet march-style (just move forward) tech and economic focus has been noted as being a polar opposite to chaotic freedom. In the USA we are faced with a very strange dichotomy in this way; we are ever attempting to transcend historic barriers by uniting economic expedients and technology with a sense of freedom and ethics. This makes us the "weak" state, in various narratives.
In the Soviet Union model, the individual must die; individuals are not leveraged positively in the economic model. It's interesting if you look at the end of the Soviet Union and the tempting role of individualist culture.
IMO it's an interesting archetype, the Soviet Union, but in individuals it can be somewhat worrying insofar as it portrays or carries the subject's inner state for them. This is far from uniformly true across the board, but there are often evidences of striking face validity if you do a lot of work with individuals who are A) in tech and B) suffering. The Soviet Mindset carries a perception that they must forget themselves and go to work, winning at all costs. However if the boss pushes themself this way, for example, their employees may find themselves suffering unfairly under a covert contract with what amounts to the Soviet Union mindset, and this is not exactly the world's healthiest leadership culture.
(I designed a productivity system around these concerns and spent a lot of time reconciling symbol and implications for productivity)
There's also the reverse case, in which one is basically stuck due to subjective emotional complications, and they are effectively rescued by this Soviet mindset. If one needs to adopt an executive mindset, few executive mindsets are going to execute better than the Soviet ;-)
Through almost all of its history, the public was deeply cynical about anything the CPSU wanted to impose on them. Among common people, the best name for a person naively believing the party was an idiot, and the worst, well much worse.
Even among the system's insiders, a double think was universal.
Only for a brief three periods of USSR's history, were there any social upheaval, and a semblance of "belief" in it: twenties, sixties, and immediately before the collapse. And every time the soviets made it sure to extinguish that.
This is more about people who are fascinated by any place or even just a poster style, even when they are mistaken about life there. It's a message process between their subjective perceptions and a symbol, rather than an objective historical survey.
The "Socialist Surrealism" would be a much better calling for it than socialist realism.
The technological progress made was impressive, although I thought it was made largely at the cost of the people and workers, rather than in co-operation with them. I am a socialist, (anarchist) and anti-Bolshevik. The October revolution was more of a right wing coup, which came after a true broad based revolution according to my interpretation of history. That said, despite the brutal methods employed to reinstate managerial control of the factories and so on, the country did progress from an impoverished, illiterate state in 1917 to an advanced manufacturing state.
The same can be said of China, which in 1948 was developmentally on the level of say India or Africa.
It was a coup from some socialist against others. Only an anarchist could call it 'right wing' and by that standard essentially 99.9% of history is 'right wing'. Seems kind of a useless way of using words.
> the country did progress from an impoverished, illiterate state in 1917 to an advanced manufacturing state
This is mostly nonsense. People regularly underestimate the Imperial economy. If you actually look at the Imperial economy and the war economy they had during the war, it was quite impressive. The efforts by socialist to call it some medieval economy is just plane nonsense. Growth during the last 30 years of Imperial was quite good, among the best in Europe.
Arguably the Soviet economy was never as dynamic. And only the Stalin industrialization drives produced more industrial growth at a cost the Imperial government wouldn't pay.
Check out this set of lectures on Imperial Russia, it includes a lot of insight on their economy and industry:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEETkM6vwQPHJHhXinsuQ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_Tragedy
Surprisingly readable given its length.
in 1917 the country was 90% illiterate. It was also mostly foreign-owned, kind of like a 3rd world country.
> in 1917 the country was 90% illiterate. It was also mostly foreign-owned, kind of like a 3rd world country.
The point is not that Imperial Russia is some kind of paradise, but that there is not fundamental break between Imperial and Soviet, no matter how much propaganda wants to 'start history' in 1917.
The land was the most productive asset in the country, and that was not foreign-owned. In fact it was mostly owned by the peasantry themselves.
The way it played out in the USSR is the way it always plays out with socialists. There are the useful idiots and there are the true dogmatists. Lenin and Stalin were true dogmatists. There were many fallouts and betrayals -Trotsky being the most infamous, but that was all internecine.
I was not familiar with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_Note
EDIT: While there is no question that the West was also responsible for prosecuting the cold war, it is not at all clear that a reasonable agreement could have been reached in 1952. There is debate as to whether the offer of negotiation was sincere.
The Cold War did indeed come about, but unfortunately for Hitler, the two sides were happy to ignore any "Not for individual sale"[3] labels.
[1] read the Sportpalast speech to find out how they sold themselves as protecting all of europe against communism.
[2] Liebes Volk! Unser viewpoint has evolved with political and economic developments in the area!
[3] Sunrise, Paperclip, etc. What were the eastern equivalents?
I good saying I heard on that is "The West is 100% collectivist in its individualism." Ever noticed the hordes of "be different" seekers following every social trend in some times terrifying unison?
I say, US is not a place where smart people have courage to dissent, being afraid to be booed, and outshouted by the "be different" collective
[1] And crown thy good with brotherhood...
[2] Thine alabaster cities gleam...
Why, I bet I could stand all day in front of the White House with a sign saying "Thank you, President Trump, for my happy childhood!" and no one would turn me away.
The biggest difference was their approach to public infrastructure. The metro stations in all three cities are absolutely gorgeous. The trains are old and creaky, but the stations look like palaces (which is exactly what they wanted to create - "palaces for the people").
Yandex just gave me https://yandex.com/search/?text=ссср%20Плакат%20купить&lr=10... 5 pages of hits...
I've assumed this is because both countries had the non-lamp shaded version first.
Do any of you all live somewhere that has demotivational posters as a common meme, but never had the propaganda poster?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ferdinand_(band)#Music_a...
Ah yes, the peaceful non-imperial USSR, fighting against those international warmongers. That's the Soviet Union I know and love
https://web.archive.org/web/20200602042013/https://www.sovie...