It seems like the major newspapers source their stories from the HN front page. It's great that they're listening - but, if they are just relying on HN and the signal and noise around it, they should also step out of this field of myopia and deliver original insights and breaking news, as well - you know, add to the conversation.

(edit: Major newspapers, like the Economist, are usually more thorough in their analysis than an HN commentator or a blog post. So, they definitely have plenty of value in the information stream, but rather than recycling and refining stories and ideas, they should also be encouraging new insights.

These startups are directly profiting from their ability to extract information that others can't.

They're NOT serving you recommendations of others' products. They're NOT serving you ads.