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Tim Cook had it right with "Security isn't a feature"

I'll liken it to healthcare despite the US not figuring this out yet. Healthcare for all helps everyone, which consequently is a value creating proposition. The fallout from a lack of healthcare negatively impacts the rich in the longterm

When security is widespread, everyone benefits. A culture which make security default off is one that throws everyone under the bus for nickles & dimes. You don't vaccinate only 10% of the population

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Security is a spectrum. The only way to ensure security in communications is not to communicate. Also every improvement in security comes at a cost and even when it's "obvious" the security feature is worthwhile people's experience of the feature may be different. Spoofing and eavesdropping can be fatal but in a lot of ways "I can't communicate with this person" is the biggest threat and all security features occasionally or frequently impair people's ability to communicate.

While I agree with your overall point, it’s worth pointing out that Apple doesn’t really do a lot of freemium stuff, so Cook’s comment should be taken in the context of having nearly all customers who have already paid up.

Free users should get time-budgets or group size limits or video resolution limits, not be spied on.

This is exactly what free users get when using zoom.

Up to 3 people in a meeting is unlimited. Over 3 is limited to 40ish minutes.

The Facebook pixel SDK etc etc stuff you're probably thinking of got removed from recently updated clients. Check out their privacy policy to have a look at the actual data they retain from actual meetings. it's fairly limited and only to do with account management / meeting management from what I recall.

It's not like Apple prices its products to be in reach of the vast majority of the world population. Apple's business model precludes it from being generally "widespread".

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