Mark Zuckerberg defends leaving up Trump posts

I thought the same, but what it (and this has happened before) one of D.T’s followers sees this and shoots people? Afaik the post said something to the effect of “Rioter’s should be shot” not by the police or a government force. But just a general statement.

Also i am saddened how the goal posts have moved. Before this it was that people who spew vitriol should be deplatformed but now we are at how this counts as government action?

Also if I was hypothetically a dictator about to do an ethnic cleansing, and post the same thing, would it still be ok? Tbh this isn’t even a hypothetical since Facebook was used in a genocide in Myanmar and did nothing but agreed they fucked up later to 0 accountability.

Except FB has a policy of sensoring based on simple fact checking (see an article also on the HN front page right now). Not sure how that article and this position line up.

> leave it up unless there is imminent, serious risk

A new mother has put up a picture of her breastfeeding her baby! There is an imminent, serious risk that someone, somewhere might see a nipple! Quick! To the Zuckmobile!

The post in question promotes a specific, imminent, and serious risk. The situation in question already has one unwarranted killing, and the phrase in question refers to a historical record of excessively violent suppression, so we’re well beyond the hypothetical. That risk is definitely present.

This leaves “spelled out in clear policies”. This essentially means that no matter how clear the intent or deadly the consequences of a post, Facebook can argue “it wasn’t a policy statement” and therefore is OK.

That’s not so much a sensible position as a carefully constructed excuse to never have responsibility under any circumstances.

What an interesting classification. Do you have something on Jeffbot and Elonbot?

Have you considered what conditions would be required for you to be motivated to behave like these protestors?

What would you need to be feeling or being treated to behave this way?

I believe, there's a small difference between the reason of the protest. These lockdown "protesters" demanded their right to do a haircut, assaulting government building with weapons. FYI in my country they'd had been shot, as soon as police see they carry a weapon. I don't mean this is right, I mean, you have a real luxury to protect your rights and express you freedom, which many people don't have, but the definition itself of this freedom is often abused. In general, one universal rule works: one person's freedom ends where freedom of other person starts.

> the protesters want mob justice

ah, unlike the Georgian good ol' boys who got their mob justice by successfully lynching that jogger who dared to be black in a sundown town a few months back.

> The cops were immediately fired and are now being investigated. Justice is being served.

any organization that allows the type of person capable of the callous murder at hand here to hold the power that this officer did in his community needs to be taken to task as a whole. your daring to assert "justice is being served" is equivalent to volkswagen blaming it all on the rogue engineer during their emissions debacle a few years back. you're letting the true powers that be off the hook. and i've got no issues with them necessarily. but if you want to have power, you better keep yourself to a mighty high standard or someone else will do it for you and i won’t be shedding any tears on your behalf.

"the funny thing" is that cops want to be worshipped as saints because of how dangerous and important the job is but, after incidents such as the Floyd murder, never come out as a group for the need for reform, for the need for them to do their jobs better. They wrap themselves in the brand of protectors of the community, but when they fail to do so, and in fact cause harm to the community, suddenly the chauvinism falls away. It's increasingly clear that "protect & serve" more often than not means protect private property, serve the establishment. And they have the nerve to act like heroes. I think a lot of us are exhausted by the hypocrisy and grandstanding at this point.