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Americans Are Giving Made-in-China the Cold Shoulder: Bloomberg

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How much do the results of this study matter in real-life? I remember as a child they had a big "Buy American" push. It didn't work, mostly because people aren't willing to pay the premium to buy American, and a company that produces in the US will have to compete against a company that produces in China with far less costs. That's not a realistic or winning solution to say the least.

It’s like all the faux-outrage over privacy violations by FB et al. When push comes to shove, people don’t care enough and they’d rather have it free or cheap.

I'd love to see a site curating products and where they are made. How much of my iPhone is made in China?

Old, but this article[0] shows that many of the components are made outside of China. Final assembly happens in China.

[0] https://www.lifewire.com/where-is-the-iphone-made-1999503

I hope to see a democratic China in my lifetime. Rationalize the “cold shoulder” however you like. But the CCP has so much more than to answer for beyond their self-interested COVID cover-up. Ask a Uighur Muslim who’s fortunate enough to “graduate” from their re-education camp. Or maybe inquire further with one of the untrustworthy who have been black listed by the social credit system. There are so many reasons to give the CCP the cold shoulder. It’s also fitting that this article comes out near the Tiananmen Square massacre.

Like another posted earlier though: easier said than done.

I wonder if we'll see the day where not buying made-in-china is now racism against Chinese people. Anything goes in 2020 so it's possible!

This is already the case.

This confuses the notion of a people with that of a state, and supposes that the sum of the people (or their majority) back the practices of the state.

Boycotting a 'Made in X' market is not inherently racist, as it doesn't ascribe value judgments to the people of X. Instead, it promotes a bias towards one economy rather than another, for the purpose of relocating profit rather than because of ideological concerns.

So, if we do see an equation of 'Boycott Made in X' with racism against X, then that will probably be reverse (State of X-run?) propaganda.

Looks like everyone's forgotten the Tibetans.

> I hope to see a democratic China in my lifetime.

This seems unlikely, given how Xi is now in for the long haul, and the CCP has strong enough a hold on the country that relinquishing power in favor of a system of democratic elections seems unrealistic.

Not to mention that modern-day democracy favors the richest. Russia started having elections after the collapse of the USSR, yet those with capital and influence seem to come out on top.

Similarly with the US, where the larger election funds can afford to influence ('propagandize') the voters.

Perhaps democracy is a good idea, but one that doesn't scale well beyond the city-state.

Easy to say; hard to do.

Dollars to wontons the pollster’s pen was “Made in China”.

I'm really interested in knowing Biden's position on China. So far I haven't seen much, but could have also missed it.

You can learn a lot from digging into why the CCP ( chinese communist party ) hates Trump and why the are doing everything they can to block him from getting re-elected ... its really not about Biden's position or lack there of its more about realizing the putative benefits of allowing Trump to push back especially w.r.t. Intellectual Property theft which has been siphoning trillions off past/present/future earnings not only in the US but in the West generally

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