Why is 70% isopropyl alcohol a better disinfectant than 99% isopropanol?
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Many viruses have a hydrophilic outer membrane and the water helps the alcohol to penetrate the virus.
Personally, I've trouble focusing if the content is less engaging, or am there just to know the gist. I suspect I've ADD-like traits - when I see an article beginning like "it was a warm sunny day in...", I say, "OK, maybe later". I however do appreciate long read articles have their place.
So far I've noticed only Business Insider does this on their articles.
At least that’s how it is for me.
Apparently here they mention that higher conc. of water make it a better solvent... which I buy, but alcohols still aren't the worst solvent for e.g. hydrophillic membranes, so I think other factors like contact time are likely in play.
It's fascinating how deep one can dive in any subject and still produce useful actionable insights :-)
The example listed in the article, Staphylococcus Aureus, is a species of bacteria.
Last time I had this discussion they linked to a study that said that for viruses, higher concentrations are better.
(Epidemiologic Background of Hand Hygiene and Evaluation of the Most Important Agents for Scrubs and Rubs Günter Kampf and Axel Kramer)
"For very small particles, less than 0.1 μm in diameter, the primary filtration mechanism is diffusion and the filter is very efficient. For particles between approximately 0.1 and 0.4 μm the filter is less efficient as the particles are too large for a great diffusion effect and too small for a large interception effect. Particles above approximately 0.4 μm enter the region where interception along with inertial impaction are predominant and the filter is very efficient again."[1]
So if your filter is 95% efficient at 0.3 μm, it's even better at bigger and smaller sizes. The SARS-CoV-2 virus is 0.05 to 0.2 μm in diameter, so an N95 mask will be substantially better than 95% for coronavirus.
[1] https://www.tsi.com/getmedia/4982cf03-ea99-4d0f-a660-42b24ae...
HEPA filters use exactly the same meltblown fabrics as respirators, except thicker and in accordion form.
small nit. the corona virus gloms onto other particles of differing sizes in an aerosol though it's not super clear what size they are.
> The size of infective airborne viral particles is not well known and the aerosol transmission of viral diseases is currently debated in the literature (Roy and Milton, 2004; Tellier, 2006).
A dime is the easiest because it is the smallest. Quarters are much larger so are also easy. In the middle are pennies and nickels which are the hardest to separate from one another because they're so close in size.
Here's a video that demonstrates it: https://www.teachengineering.org/activities/view/cub_coinsor...
Mixing on a scale can be pretty confusing, though, because the percentages are (I think) by volume, and water and alcohol have different densities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume#Volume_chang...
https://onsenlabs.com/blogs/blog/isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-aka-i...
Also includes a dilution table for 91%.
>Example 1:
>Suppose a scientist has a bottle of 99% IPA (C1) that they want to dilute down to 70% (C2). To end with 50mL of 70% IPA (V2), how much volume of 99% IPA should they use and dilute with distilled water to create the final solution?
>99% x V1 = 70% x 50mL = 35.35mL
>Thus, adding 35.35mL of distilled water to 14.65mL of 99% IPA creates a 50mL solution of 70% IPA.
(They reversed the water and IPA quantities.)
I don't know why the chart assumes you're measuring down to thirds of milligrams, though...
If you want to be ultra-sure, then use distilled. But be aware it's also bought by people who use it for their CPAP machines, so don't go nuts.
"… we find that they would need to add 3.31 ounces of (distilled) water with 8 ounces of 99% IPA …"
The formula is simple: 'Concentration Required' divided by 'Concentration Supplied' multiplied by 'Final quantity Required'. That will give you the amount of 91% isopropyl alcohol you need to measure out, then dilute to the 'Final quantity required' with your tap water. (Or better still, use Distilled Water or De-Ionized Water.)
So: You want 500 mls of isopropyl alcohol 70% and you have isopropyl alcohol 91% on hand -
Concentration required = 70%
Concentration Supplied = 91%
Final quantity required = 500 mls
Amount of isopropyl alcohol 91% needed = 70 / 91 x 500 = 384.6 mlsDilute that 384.6 mls to 500 mls with water and there's your 500 mls of isopropyl alcohol 70%.
Of course, you don't need to be quite so finicky when it comes to biological measurements. You'd round off the 384.6 mls to 385 mls (or even 380 mls or 390 mls) without any appreciable loss of effectiveness.
I wish this article was more popular so people would stop hoarding 99% isopropyl.
70% IPA in water is the go-to cleaning/sanitizing agent for most pharmaceutical cleanrooms. They also use other agents, 0.2-0.5% bleach, low pH cleaners, peroxides, etc... but IPa is the mainstay.
Another way to think about it is that UPW is an acid with a concentration of 55 Moles/liter.
UPW also doesn’t immediately bleach hair, it would have to be a pretty prolonged heavy stream. Mostly UPW is pain in the ass because it corrodes metallic pipes, but is pretty harmless to people unless you really have massive amounts. One of the reasons it’s harmless is because the moment it touches you it isn’t really ultra pure anymore, it really takes parts per million to become not UPW.
(I used to refurbish old PCs and we used isopropyl alcohol liberally as a cleaner.)
Indeed, alcohol will dry the hell out of the skin, which is why alcoholic hand sanitiser have some sort of moisturiser included (e.g. glycerol).
(The latter three depend on the brand, some might start to slowly dissolve or harden after many applications due to plasticizer leaching. Always check with manufacturer.)
The only options I can think of are increasIng the number of letters and redefining “T” to “tetra” or even “thirty”.
Time to get started on a new RFC
Four letter acronym, experimental.
https://wiki.c2.com/?ExtendedThreeLetterAcronym
Although I'd like to see something like XTLAs, for eXtensible Three Letter Acronyms.
Most of the remaining ambiguity of three-letter acronyms could be avoided if people didn't get upset about redundant acronym expansion: "I cleaned with IPA alcohol after having an IPA ale."
[1] RAS syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome
ATM Machine grates on my sensibilities, since we all know what an ATM is and calling it a "machine" is both redundant and low-information. It's like calling an ATV an ATV vehicle (which I have never heard): would you call a truck a truck vehicle?
PIN number on the other hand, I'm fine with. A pin is a small piece of steel used in sewing, a PIN number is a number you type into an ATM.
I also find misuses of RAS syndrome fun. AAV vector isn't RAS syndrome. It stands for adeno associated virus vector. But people are eager to jump on whatever pedantry they think they can find, makes them feel smart I guess.
Some machines have 'machine' in their name, most don't. A milling machine, yes, but who says lathe machine?
ATM machine just sounds weird to me. The fact that the "M" stands for machine doesn't help but it's not decisive.
That's what I mean by redundant: it's like saying spoon utensil.
You should create an acid water mixture before adding the mixture to another chemical.
There was a recent study by Stanford that measured the effectiveness of various cleaning methods.
https://www.uchealth.org/today/why-soap-and-water-work-bette...
https://www.uchealth.org/today/ins-and-outs-of-disinfecting-...
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/deadly-viruses-are-no-matc...
If you've got a better reference I'd be interested in seeing it, but this is what I've found.
Table C lists the various disinfectants they tried including ethanol at 70%. All of them found undetectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 after 5 mins except hand soap, which took between 5 mins and 15 mins.
I was off in my recollection that the study showed that alcohol killed the virus immediately. I may have confused that with a press conference several weeks ago but that data is probably suspect. All we know is that within 5 mins alcohol killed it to undetectable levels.
Also note that the 20 second rule has never been tested. There is some value in washing in a sink with running water since it is physically removing the virus off your hands. And it’s been socialized that is will work in general for bacteria but no one has actually tested to see if 20 seconds of hand washing with soap will clean you of coronavirus specifically. The study above actually tested for coronavirus although I don’t think the soap test was for running water.
Covid-19 is number one issue...then let's work down.
This matters because we need to keep it simple. If you run around telling people 99% is bad for C19 when it isn't, you are ruining peoples solutions when you don't have to.
Sorry but these factoids are the fking issue. Telling people soap is better when hand sanitizer is clearly a better real world solution has caused lots of issues.
Does 99% work worse on a virus like C19 by a significant amount?
In other words, the hypothesis is there is electrostatic attractive forces that rip the buggers apart, in which this “pressure” is quantitatively stronger in the presence of molecular hydrogen bonding, ie greater dipole moments between the aqueous solution and the virus.
(PS our study design will rely on 200 proof absolute ethanol for go-to market simplicity and for lowest surface tension deposition into the alveolar pulmonary region to promote alveolar stability)
[1] https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/guidelines/disinfection...
[2] Ali Y, Dolan MJ, Fendler EJ, Larson EL. Alcohols. In: Block SS, ed. Disinfection, sterilization, and preservation. Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 2001:229-54.
I am using the hand sanitizer by 3M which has 70% ethyl alcohol.
To minimize confusion, the title could be changed to: Why Is 70% Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) a Better Disinfectant Than 99% IPA?
This is why hand sanitiser usually have some sort of moisturiser as part of the solution, and why if you wash your hand a lot you'll quickly get irritations and worse if yon don't also moisturise them regularly.
Ethylene glycol is a dessicant, and moderately toxic. You really don't want to add that to hand sanitiser, or to rub ethylene glycol on your skin after 70% alcohol as a moisturiser.
You might be thinking about polyethlylene glycol. Or possibly glycerol (a humectant and moisturiser) but that's less likely.
Is this situation irreversible?
I do this at every washing, to assure that my skin is protected after all the oils are stripped by the detergent.
I'm not a dermatologist, however, so consult a medical professional if problems persist.