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> Just telling people to apply to domain.com/jobs is pretty lame. So, basically the same door that anyone else goes through when they click the "Careers" link in your site's footer? Reminds me of when I solved one of the CTF challenges for a website only for my reward to be "We're hiring! Apply at jobs.example.com!"

That reminds me of MI5’s Coding Challenge [1][2][3].

[1] https://cixtor.com/blog/mi5-coding-challenge

[2] https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/opportunities/coding-challeng...

[3] https://www.mi5.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/puzzal_ima...

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One of the defence agencies in Australia made a puzzle quite a long time ago; I can't find it now. It was a bunch of hex in a banner advert; the hex was actually x86 assembly, which if 'run' would write a string into memory.

The string was just the URL of their recruitment portal. I was so disappointed, once I got it running I was hoping to hear helicopters or a knock on the door!

>I was so disappointed, once I got it running I was hoping to hear helicopters or a knock on the door!

They probably need a lot of people with some tech knowledge. This way they can probably gain the widest audience that is still useful.

If it's too hard to crack, it's unlikely your investment of time in this recruitment measure will actually yield results.

The point is that if you crack it, they should send you to some unique link. Even if it's not super hard, it at least proved some level of technical competency and do should allow you to prioritised interview access (maybe at least skipping initial screening).

I assume the solutions to these can be found publicly pretty quickly. So your secret bypass first filter loses utility after the first couple of people.

The person that knows how to Google for solutions may be the right person for the job.

The reason you put this riddles online is to get to know people who love this kind of challenge. This is still the case if the solutions are available online, even though I would include a plead into my job ad not to post solutions online for fairness with respect to other potential applicants who mananged to solve the riddle.

When in a job interview, it should be very easy to find out whether the person found the solution online or he "cheated"; simple ask some detailed questions how the person came up with this and that part of the approach.

Perhaps filtering out the people who can neither solve it nor Google it is enough of a filter by itself. Not suggesting it should bypass more than initial screening, naturally.

It works in reverse - you probably wouldn't want to work in such an environment with frustrating practices towards developers.

A valid stance. Incidentally, that's why I've never had any interest in working at a certain couple of FAANG companies.

What frustrating practices? I'm a developer (and mathematician), and I love puzzles :)

sure, but how much of the actual job will be solving puzzles? Seems unlikely to be representative of the work so the people who enjoy the actual work might begrudge the interview and the people who enjoy the interview might not enjoy the work.

At an intelligence agency? Possibly quite a bit.

Not everyone is working on awesome stuff at an intelligence agency. They still need people to work on their 20 year old hellscape of an ERP system in hated language(java,ada,cobol, etc).

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