Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US?
By googling around I can easily find that members of the_donald created a list of thousands of addresses and phone numbers of people who are anti-trump. Or is that 'fake news'? The thing that actually got the_donald quaranteened (not even banned!) were calls to violence..
> Hopefully all State Police in Oregon refuse, hes serious. No problems shooting a cop trying to strip rights from Citizens. If he calls for help I'd come.
How can you defend that? Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow?
When did those other subs call for 'shooting cops'??
> Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US?
The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world. If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that.
Honestly, everything you wrote is "fake news" or one-sided nonsense. It's the same nonsense parroted by the exact people I described. Every sub I listed has had members call for violence. Especially against the right, "nazis", cops, "bigots", "sexists", "racists", "trump supporters", republicans, etc. Considering you are virtue signaling against "racism,sexism", I'm betting you called for violence many times on reddit. How right am I?
> Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow?
How am I a victim? I wasn't subbed to the_donald, didn't support trump, didn't vote for trump, etc. But this year I might because people like you are dangerous. Though I suppose in a sense we are all victims because speech got restricted but I personally was not victimized. Thanks for caring though.
> The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world.
Are you russian? Because I was told for many years that foreign interference was destabilizing the american political system. Funny how you support foreign interference and the destabilization of the US.
> If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that.
Racism and sexism are protected political speech whether you like it or not. Otherwise, people like you wouldn't be allowed to use sexist terms like "toxic masculinity". But I'll defend your right to use those silly words because I believe in free speech.
Probably a lot just like with every major sub.
> and to what effect regards your argument?
Doesn't affect it a single bit.
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23184110
"The problem is, you cannot have it both ways: either free speech is paramount, because it changes things in the real world, or allspeech is meaningless because it has no effect."
Wonderful little strawman with a dash of false dichotomy. The argument for free speech really derives from constitutional rights not on its effectiveness. Just like your right to life and liberty doesn't derive from how valuable others deem your life/liberty.
> You cannot build a large-scale, significant communications system without moderation ...
More strawman. Nobody is against moderation. I'm against censorship. I'm for sub moderation but also allow users to view the censored content if they choose so. Frankly, I'm more in support of allowing users to moderate more and mods moderating less. Let the community drive the sub rather than mods ruling the sub.
> any more than you can create a large-scale city without sanitation and public health systems, or a global rapid transportation network without commensurate epidemiological detection, management, and controls.
Okay, I'll try to enlighten you a bit. The question is what qualifies as "feces, garbage, disease". Would you be okay with /r/politics being banned? What about lgbt subs? What about atheism subs? What about feminist subs? What about /r/twoxchromosome since that is "transphobic"?
We'll try a categorical imperative. You have the right to ban subs but that right extends to everyone else. Would you support that? I doubt that. I'd bet you'd hypocritically scream "free speech" if the toxic subs you support were banned. How about let everyone enjoy the toxic shit of their choice as long as it is legal?
On Reddit, and elsewhere, there's no shortage of people loudly proclaiming their love of the President. Sure, Trump isn't very popular on Reddit as a whole and posts involving him will be voted down when they show up outside of the usual echo chambers. But the posts and comments are still there. As well as being a constant presence on Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. Political speech in the US is far from being censored in any way.